Ultra Street Fighter 4 | General Lounge

Hoping for the fifth character to be Gouken’s daughter. It’s a character even Capcom has forgotten about. No one would think of her.

Bum just said on Yipes’ stream that he had heard from an extremely “reliable source” who apparently would not bullshit about this that all characters will be able to access both Ultras in a match.

Of course, there’s no other proof provided, and, of course, there’s the fact that you have people who are mainly Marvel players talking about this.

^^If true what a fucking circus act

gen would be super broken lmao

Holy fuck are you serious? This is starting to turn into fucking Rainbow Edition if half the shit people are saying turns out to be true.

I personally think it’s bullshit but I wanted to share it to see what people who actual play SF thought.

He’s also apparently confirmed KoF14, too, but I didn’t hear that. That’s probably BS, too.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and he’s the one who’s been saying that Marvel was getting patched but seeing as that never happened… most likely BS.

Well. Everyone begged for “no nerfs, all buffs.” So.

If that’s true, I’m officially done with this game. Everybody and their mother would just pick someone with 2 ultras that completely shut you down e.g Cammy, Zangief, T. Hawk.

im pretty sure there was a discussion about how a lot of characters would become broken in SF if both ultras were available…

Hakan would be all super powerful with that option…

Yea I think it’s BS.
That would totally break the game imo.

Dumb aesthetic thing I’ve been curious about… 45 characters + random. How are they going to organize the character select menu?

I’m taking it with a MASSIVE grain of salt, but it wouldn’t break the game. It might merit an across the board nerf on Ultra damage, but that could be a good thing regardless.

For many characters you already only ever pick a single Ultra in a given match-up because the other one just isn’t relevant, and you’re still limited by the gauge so it isn’t like you could simultaneously stack the effects of multiple Ultras in some game-breaking way.

Gen’s had multiple Ultras by default forever and while that’s nice it isn’t the driving force behind what makes him good.

Still, big grain of salt, not holding breath.

Zangief would be God tier. Hakan too.

It’s BS

No they wouldn’t. DO some history people, Zangief has had regular and anti air supers before that did tons more damage than the shitty ones he has in SFIV and he’s not broken. Giving characters access to both but still tier to the one gauge would make things interesting and help move the game away from the collection of weak as shit character state it’s in.

No it really wouldn’t.

If they really want to move the game away from all mediocre characters, Ultras are the last place they should go. Characters need a LOT more help than being able to use multiple Ultras.

Zangief would make it so you couldn’t go in the air or be close without eating it every time in a game where there’s a heavy amount of characters that cannot zone at all.

Hakan would have a braindead anti-crossup for the same group of characters while still preventing people from getting close without eating it.

Oh yeah and T-Hawk too.

Grapplers wouldn’t be God tier I don’t think, unlike Az, but I do say that they would be pretty high tier and would make characters like Guy completely unusable generally.

More problems I could foresee that people would complain about:

-Ryu having an AA Ultra along with an easy to combo Ultra.
-Chun being able to dash ultra through fireballs and having guaranteed juggle ultra off of EX legs anywhere on the screen.
-Adon having an anti fireball ultra along with an easy to combo ultra
-Cody with an ultra he can actually combo into for full damage with an ultra that can punish a lot
-Cammy and Fei never being able to be approached when they have ultra…ever
-Never being able to jump at Seth when he has ultra
-Honda being able to punish zoners with ultra as well as grabbing mixup characters with ultra.

Too much potential for rage due to crazy scenarios, with not everyone being able to benefit from it when Capcom is trying to make everyone viable. Both ultras available is no bueno.

How about an option to switch your Super pre-match?

Choice of ultra is a VERY bad idea. The ultra system is already stupid, no need to screw matchups further by giving a character two ultras. Imagine versus Cammy with 2 ultras stocked? Can’t throw fireballs because HERP, can’t do any oki besides a safe-jump because DERP.

Anyway, I really want to play Rolento. It’d be NUTS if he can FADC off the 3rd hit of Patriot Circle and go into Ultra. Might be a very easy way to confirm into ultra but I’d trade that in exchange for less damage in general. I hope he’s high footsie, high movement, and good chip damage in exchange for weaker wake-up and lower damage. I just want tons of options and mobility.