Ultra street fighter 4 gen changes

TC2 ex hands crane crMP roll on Rufus and Dudley does it work? and whats the stun on mantis hard punch still 100 100 or 150 50

any changes on oga hit box?

A bit less than 350 dmg for 4 loops. Also you cannot do the 5th TC. You’re out of range after 4.

Mantis st.HP does 100+100 stun.

I think Oga hitbox got reduced on its cross-up hitbox. Doesn’t mean it can’t cross up tho :wink:

try this in corner vs Ibuki

TC2 light gekir > juggle 3 hits (let her be slightly above head) > wiff neutral jump mantis mk > wiff standing medium punch > jump forward medium kick

is it an unblockable?

No. She can block every meaty unblockable setup. Same goes for Guy, Seth with their j.MK setups and Ryu with your meaty EX Oga setup.

you tried it right?

how about the corner Teiga unblockable

Yes. I tried it along with the simple forward throw -> forward dash x 2 setup and meaty Oga setup while I’m at it.

I forgot the setup for Teiga unblockable. Do you mind telling me which one it is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_m6wMgRBqk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVJN-1tr3DY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLM8tbrVzx8
The crane super unblockable on Cammy does it still work?

Tested 10 times each on Ryu and Ken with a different timing to make sure I got the setup correct. Both of them were able to block by holding back.

BTW, both Mantis and Crane st.LP whiff on Elena’s crouch block.

Mantis st.MP whiffs when she does her cr.LK.

About the Cammy setup with Crane Super, timing is much more strict but it still is possible.

ok, seems that only midscreen unblockables. interesting. delayed wakeup should make new unblockables possible. MUAHAHAHAHAAA

can Ken max range crMP handoken be punished by shitenketsu

does crane jHK x2 link into super?
whats the damage of crMP hands super ultra from max range

Sry man, I’ll have to test those hours later.

Btw,
Here’s the list of what you can link after MP hands from point blank range:
(On standing opponent I used TC2 xx MP hands, and on crouching opponent I used cr.MP xx MP hands)

MP hands -> walk forward Mantis st.MK:
Standing - Abel, Balrog, Dee Jay, Dhalsim, Dudley, El Fuerte, Guile, Rufus
Crouching - Abel, E. Honda, Hugo, T. Hawk

MP hands -> Mantis st.HK
Standing - Abel, Balrog, Dee Jay, Dhalsim, Dudley, El Fuerte, Guile
Crouching - Abel, E. Honda, Hugo

MP hands -> Mantis cr.HP
Standing - Abel, Balrog, Dee Jay, Dhalsim, Dudley, El Fuerte, Guile, Rufus
Crouching - Abel, E. Honda, Hakan, Hugo, T. Hawk

MP hands -> Mantis cr.HK
Standing - El Fuerte, Makoto
Crouching - Balrog, E. Honda, Fei Long, Hugo

MP hands -> Crane cr.MP xx LP Roll
Standing -
Crouching - E. Honda

MP hands -> Mantis U2
Standing - Dee Jay
Crouching - Abel, E. Honda, Hugo

MP hands -> kara Mantis U2 with MP
Standing - Abel, El Fuerte
Crouching -

thanks, does counterhit crane crouch HP still juggle to super? can super follow up after shakudan?

I’m pretty sure the answer is yes to both for Crane Super and no for Mantis Super.

thanks street11 for all the info. got to wait now and see if capcom still patching stuff. before I go full ham in the lab.

we got hands loops again!? 0_0