Ultra changes (location test)

Yeah that happens in SF2 a lot especially against Honda or Dic.

damn… 9:1 in favor of having Edition select online on EH poll. If that’s the general opinion, then Capcom will probably do a 180 on it.

I think Edition Select for endless battle, that’s fine, we play Vega for fun, so let’s have more fun with it.

If training enough, I will use Vanilla Vega to bring shit to scrubs both offline and online
Vs. weaker players : Vanilla Claw
Vs. same level players: AE+AE2012 Claw
Vs. higher level players: Super + Ultra Claw

I play Vega since 2008 so I can easily adapt to each Vega’s style in Edition Select

By the way, how was the result Gamerbee Vs Zeus currently, did anyone record already?

8-1 i think. Maybe 8-2.

No way in hell I’m ever touching AE Vega ever again.

There was a Gamerbee vs Zeus rematch?

Was there another exhibition between Zeus and Gamerbee? Or are we just talking about Winter Brawl where Gamerbee completely owned Zeus 7-0?

Yeah, that was embarassing. I wonder if Chris King would have fared better. Still, everyone has their off days.

Vanilla Vega is a piece of trash, perhaps the most ass character in the entire SF4 series.
The only reason I can’t say for sure is that I might have forgotten another ass character along the way.

Super Vega improved on Vanilla Vega in every way possible, damage output, utility, consistency.
Compared to the rest of the cast, he was also at his best in Super. probably top15 or something.
He was so awesome that he needed to be nerfed to hell in AE and slightly restored in 2012 :stuck_out_tongue:

Ultra Vega will probably become the best version of him, its basicly raw damage and cosmic heel from super VS c.mk, super, double ultra, delay wake up, red focus from ultra.

Ultra Vega will be a far more versatile character, but the cosmic heel and damage from Super is hard to ignore.
Any combo that has c.mp and EX-FBA in it will do 30 more damage in Super, any loose c.mp 10 more and any loose/cross up walldive does 20 more, that adds up in a round or game.

Picking Vanilla,AE or 2012 Vega in edition select for anything other then fun or nostalgia makes little sense to me.

Well, but with delay wake up mechanic, we cannot use Ex-fba cross-up anymore
We have to find out another trick for him soon, meaty or something, just like after throw, walk forward, Cr.Mk and Cr.Mk, supposedly

vega never really excelled in mixups on an opponents wake up anyway. i don’t think it matters too much for our opponents compared to our usage of delayed wakeup.

I am not sure about that.

Anyway, good luck playing against Rufus now.

Vega will be hurt by dwu. He was very good at controlling options on a kd. Not to mention ambiguous crossups in matchups where they worked.

He won’t be hit the hardest, no, but many people are acting like dwu itself makes Vega broken. It doesn’t, and it isn’t like it only helps him, either.

Forgot about Rufus…never mind!

resets are unaffected. can still do x-up EX FBA on wake up from a reset.

“Very good” is a bit of a stretch

His options are

Meaty normal (cLK or cMK or CH)
Delayed normal/throw
Throw
Block
Instant air overhead
’Early’ air overhead
Backflip
Backdash

All except Block and Backflip lose to invincible reversal, and only backflip beats invincible reversal FADC. You can jump early to beat some reversals but it’s highly risky and situational. So considering 1 of the opponent’s options beats 6-7 of Vega’s (DP FADC), I find it hard to see it as very good. Particularly, when every other non charge character can walk up and invincible special on their opponent’s wake up to beat most options, or at the very least force the opponent to make a pressured decision. He has no legitimate cross up, no blockstring, 1 ambiguous set up, and no major frame advantage on hit or block. The risk is skewed against Vega and the reward is skewed in the opponent’s favor. So it’s mediocre at best. Even when compared to other charge characters.

Well, crossup EX FBA beats DP FADC.

Not like it make Claw’s offensive any better than you are saying.

Just pointing it out.

yeah I forgot that one.

anyone have any cross up EX FBA (or U1) reset set ups? I plan to spend some time this week developing some. It’s pretty much the last unexplored area of Vega’s game (for me at least anyway).

A lot of players tend to do piece of mercury straight after a hard knockdown then crossup. Don’t use it much, I prefer to do a hard knockdown, then cosmic heel whiff and crossup. There is always the amazing ultea crossup after medium screen throw or the bait reversal dash forward after knockdown and jump fierce.

So, @Vegaman‌ , were you able to talk to Combofiend at FR?

Takes away all of Vega viable buffs… then creates this new charge character and lets her keep everything.

…Im done

Fucking hell.