LMAO!! That Fierce Battle Vs. Gief was hilarious.
Regarding the topic, I have to agree with Haz. Having extra active frames isn’t all that. I’m not even sure why Capcom even gave us that buff.
Seriously, when did they hear anyone complain about cr.HP being difficult to time when AA? Freaking Capcom. They do whatever they feel like. Forget feedback.
You know I did that on purpose in response to you right?
When did I say this? There no fucking way I would ever say he needs more charge time on anything
When did I say this? I don’t even think I ever once commented on cLP being +2 on block at all. Now you’re just making shit up.
Because he has no decent way of getting the opponent off down back? Go for it then. What’s he got?
You could make it a 3f cLK instead if you like. I listed that as one option out of many. Stop trying to make me out to be someone hell bent on getting him buffed with every buff I’ve stated and it being the one and only way to balance the character. There are thousands of ways to do it. I listed my preferences.
You brought ST up… I responded. You asked what characters cHP buff would help against. I responded. Now you criticize me for responding to those and saying I’m not answering your question. Wow man. You’re impossible. I’m done. Iono what the fuck you’re talking about then. Come back when you can make sense.
I don’t get it. Why would you deny when the proof of its a few pages back? I won’t bother searching for every.single.one. I’ll just be practival and search for the one that I can find just by using the “Search” here using the link of the video I made, and the one that its on the last page here.
Hm, here is the shit that I made up: http://puu.sh/6UNxK.png.
lol, there you go: http://puu.sh/6UMFy.png
And when I showed you the proof: http://puu.sh/6UMLG.jpg . You still denied to admit that 2+2=4 even I picked up a calculator and showed to you. Claiming that “I did not said that you can’t use your fingers to press the buttons on the calculator, I said 2+2 is not four!”.
Vegaman pls
haztlan should be my lawyer when shit happens
I could still take someone who wants PoM +4 seriously. Otherwise spot on!
Wow… I don’t have the patience on this phone… I’m done. Fix your fucking English haz.
Ironic.
Can I get a link to that video? If it’s not much to ask.
Changing subject, it still really gets me that of all the problems being introduced into Ultra, VEGA is what’s getting the most attention from Capcom.
We have our new Ken overlords running rampant all over the beta. Ken is probably the #1 character in the current build, yet Capcom feels like Vega deserves more nerf attention and Ken is fine. The crazy buffs introduced soooo many balance problems, particularly Ken, Guile, Chun, Evil Ryu, Thawk and Dudley.
Everyone is bandwagoning on Rolento and Elena for being so derp good, yet Capcom seems happy with this.
Capcom’s fan feedback-based balancing was extremely short-sighted and introduced all kinds of problems to the game, yet they felt like VEGA was the one thing that needed to be looked into and everything else was fine. Calling it now: the balance issues of USF4 will become very obvious at evo, or a few months after release, and the game will be considered a joke along the lines of SFxT or Injustice until it gets a patch.
but if you prefer the 9gag version:
ok ok, just kidding 
relax guys! don’t fight here, go on and use the sticks/pads instead 
Grammar is important, fo real. Anyone content with sounding like a jackass is a jackass.
English isn’t Haz’s native language, and he does fine.
This.
It was kinda ironic with the typo there. lol. But its the kind of thing that happens to everyone and it does not change the meaning of the phrase. So its all good.
He isn’t talking about crMK at all there. In fact, neither of the people quoted in that capture are. They’re talking about jabs. Am I missing something.
Also, + on block is always a good thing, the more the better and the better you can pressure with. Why isn’t having more + better, and why wouldn’t a +3 crMK be better than a +2 crLP? It would give more frame advantage to pressure with on block which is good. I don’t get it.
I did not exlained that because I’d need to search for it.
But, since you asked:
He did not wanted crLP at +2. But he wanted a poke at +3. http://puu.sh/6UNBo (I’ve said crMK just to illustrate, it could be anything).
When you crLP you are at +1 on block. You also do not have a 3f normal. So you are even with characters that have a 3f normal, which means that you are not pressuring anything nor anyone, you are even against them.
Actually, if you do a crLP point blank they can even throw you out of a perfect crLP crLP. It would also make it way easier to keep people from jumping away from crLP crLP “pressure”.
If you made +2 on block, crLP pressure would actually exist against 3f. As it should.
crMK+3 on block is also good, it would increase its pressure. But if you want to frame trap after a crMK, you can do it already. It would not make anything that its not possible now… possible then (unless being able to frame trap SPDs, but that is not relevant). While crLP at +2 would open a new pressure possibilty. You could use crLP crLP crLP until you get a confirm into EX FBA against every character, not only the ones that lack a 3f normal too.
He didn’t specifically say crMK and in my discussions with him he would prefer stMK or another long range normal to be +3 or better on block for better poke pressure. In this situation I have to side with him 100% because the point was he never said that to begin with you and said he did and went out of your way to quote that he did.
Disregarding the he-said-she-said drama, I don’t see what the big deal is. I can’t disagree with him there because I would like something like that as well. But if we weren’t to get long range pokes + on block then I’d be happy with crMK or crLP, in fact I’d be happy with ANY thing having more + on block since I feel he needs it because his offense game is a bit weak and he has no way to keep people out once they get in. More + on crMK means better pressure, and that would be a nice tool to have extra pressure on because a hit confirm means a crMP xx EX FBA. More + on anything they’d be willing to let us have would be nice since it would help at keeping people out. I don’t care if he can’t keep people off once they get in if he has ridiculous tools to keep them out, since that would mean a huge mistake on the Vega player’s part.
At this point any buffs would be a blessing considering we’ve been nerfed. Ken Overlords indeed.
I like the idea of Cr.LP being +2 on block. I mentioned on Eventhubs that it was something that could alleviate some concerns.
What does it even matter at that point though? If that’s all they were to buff while still nerfing our most damaging and hard to do combo (at least hard for me, I can’t seem to get the timing right) then we’re all fucked anyway. I mean, someone already mentioned Ken. Just what the fuck. He wasn’t low tier in the first place, has more than enough useful tools, and he gets buffed to high heaven. Vega got nerfed. I don’t understand it.
Again, I swear one of the DIMPs developers got his ass handed to him by ST or V-Ism Vega in the 90’s, costing him fame, fortune, and his hot girlfriend dumped him for the Vega player, and swore vengeance on Vega once he got a job working for Capcom.
Another one… he said that he did not wanted crLP at +2. He said that he wanted a poke at +3. The drama here is because I gave a name to the specific poke instead of refering to it generically. But as he did not chose one… how is this my fault?
Anyway, I agree that a poke at +3 would be good. Its obvious that it would, god dammit.
But there is no discussion regarding the crLP +2 usefulness compared to crMK, stLK or stMK being +3.
Yeah but now you’re accusing him of what you complain that he does to you. He never said that, and you’re putting that context there on your own. It’s no big deal anyway because it seems everyone is on the same page that they’d like a poke at +3 I’d prefer a far poke but if it went on crMK I wouldn’t complain. If I had a choice of crLP at +2 or crMK at +3 I’d probably take the latter, simply because it means we get to recover a frame earlier than they do and we can be better prepared to respond to whatever they choose to throw out and IMO he needs that to get ready for air to air or whatever.
And actually, I kind of agree. I don’t want crLP at +2 if it meant I’d get to have stMK at +3, or some other ranged attack. But if it was crLP or nothing, I’d take crLP. I’m sure he feels the same, but I know that wouldn’t be his first choice.
