Heh, my bad Xplosion, I meant that to imply ‘Christ’s sake’ but I figured I’d put a spin on in. Glad you agree with me though 
Still got hulk’s armored gamma charge! 
After playing so many Phoenix teams online…fuck that bitch and idc how they nerf her. I have full proof strategies to beat her and stuff it’s just that one character shouldn’t change how you play completely. Someone mentioned in another thread that Phoenix makes you change your gameplan even before she comes in bc she makes you spend meter (and sometimes XF) just trying to kill her and if you fuck up you’re just giving her the advantage and I agree completely. It’s weird that few Phoenix players would like a Phoenix with no DP and avg health. I honestly would LOVE that bc Phoenix’s biggest (and stupidest) advantage is that if she gets 5 bars, she’ll either chase you until she kills you or you’ll kill her and she almost automatically wins. Even regular Phoenix’s number one tactic to jump and throw orbs isn’t that hard to counter. Dante for one can teleport on reaction and use j.s to bring her down and extinguish the orb. Tron and Sent’s j.S will do the same. Honestly, I really think if Phoenix was exactly the same, had 800k or so health, and didnt have DP, she’d still be top tier without being so cheap. I know her jumping orbs in reg. Phoenix can still shut down a lot of characters but that’s something that should be dealt with by your entire team. Meaning, if you pick a team of 3 characters and none of them can deal with that strategy then there’s obviously a big flaw with them. Reminds of someone saying they would make a team of three Haggars (be prepared to get zoned the entire match)
RESPECT THE PI—PLASMA BEAM!!!—
Did Akuma get any nerfs?
His tatsu (and tatsu assist) no longer cause a soft knockdown. I’d expect to see fewer Akumas in the future.
They nerfed his health.
Okay, use him as assist more.
They nerfed his assist.
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He does have better mixups opportunities with air demon flip/Demon Flip Grab.
I’m extremely excited for UMvC3, all the new characters look fun as hell to play as, most of the vanilla casts is getting new moves and needed nerfs/buffs. I personally can’t fecken wait to get my hands on strider and vergil, the things you can do now are awesome as balls. Iron fist looks sexy as shit to play as and nemesis and his hyper rocket OTG antics are gonna be used alot when released. captain americas L-shield throw otgs now. Like whats not to like.
My boner right now is this big 8================================================================================D for UMvC3
nah people needed to learn how to bait and blow up assists with supers. but hey, this is the generation where everyone whines on SRK more than they actually play the game so away the assists went!
I’d also like it to go back to MvC2 style where if the point gets hit the assist leaves while still being able to be attacked for a second.
It’d be nice. Assist cross ups after you land a hit is the most non-bro shit ever.
I’ve got thousands of games on MvC3 myself so it’s not like I’m talking out of my ass here(I’m certainly no pro so don’t try to paint me as some smug bastard). What amazes me is how you actually expect anyone to punish something like the lariat when it has 67 frames of invul. Tron may not be invul, but she has just much protection as Haggar because she is usually paired up with a top tier who can easily blow away scrubby random supers. It helps when she has ten medium priority projectile durability points which basically makes punishing her impossible unless you hit them with a cr.l or a beam super(which she WILL nullify at point blank range lolz). Punishing those two was incredibly hard even at the very highest levels of play because of the fact that they were so good and the point characters they were paired with had fantastic normals.
I can’t believe that post even got so many likes haha.
becasue in the grand scheme of things, there have been things that are much more infuriating than Tron or Haggar, and people beat them. He may be smug but you aren’t thinking past Step 2
Oh, I’m aware that they are beatable(Viscant:LOLZ), but it’s silly to say that super on reaction is all it takes. Some day one shit like that is not going to help you in a real match against a real player when it comes to those two(especially when it comes to 1.2 million spongy health).
Pretending that it was as simple as “ABC” is just disingenuous…
I guess because it’s Mahvel. You have missiles and drones that help you lock down the opponent while putting the assist character behind the point character which can make them unnoticeable at times if you didnt hear them being called (this also puts the assist in a spot that is nearly impossible to punish) and with all the shit going on in Marvel reacting based on a sound is not the easiest thing to do. Then you have Ammy’s Cold Star assist where she jumps in the air and shoots projectiles at the opponent. Some characters cant even reach her with their normal attacks. Then you have Tron’s and Haggar’s which put them just about in front of the character and it’s easy as hell to know when they’re gonna be called (I guess bc I use Tron:sweat:) but they still will sometimes hit the opponent. I personally think the only problem with them was the fact that they can be combo’d off of.
Haggar CAN be punished but I feel as though it’s one of those things we really needed to just have more time with to figure out how to.[details=Spoiler][media=youtube]woGAeADaR9o[/media]00:20[/details]
I really have no serious non-character specific problems with the game…EXCEPT for, option select throw/heavy/command normal. That shit is where the true nerf belongs. Nothing in the game drives me more crazy than the shared throw/H input…its more annoying than XFC, TAC, LMHS,OTG,DHCT, XF3, ToD, HSD, DSF, HSF, HIV, and anything else really(except DP, for obvious reasons) I just hate getting thrown on “accident” as well as missing a definite punish opportunity on what should have been a whiffed throw animation, instead i’m stuck blocking mighty swing or dive kick into pressure/salt. And that goes for any FG, not just MVC3. Even way back in the SF2 days i hated it. I thought we were past this when 3rd strike introduced the whiffed throws and “2 button” input to 2-D’ers years ago. It just irks me…although I never really hear many complaints from others on this issue, so maybe its just me… but i really just dont see why the “industry standard” for throws and escapes doesn’t include dedicated inputs.
Main two things I didn’t like about Tron and Haggar assist is that they are still going to hit you even if you hit the opponent and the full combos on hit off them.
And that was the real issue all along. I don’t know why people insist on making sub par characters non existant because some random team they like gets raped.
Trust me, you can play 5000 matches and still be talking out of your ass. And if those matches were all online then it all means zilch.
There’s these things called “recovery frames” if someone is calling invincible assists all willy-nilly then yes, it is extremely easy to punish them with supers, cr.l, whatever. If they’re calling them smartly and you can’t figure out how to catch them, then they’re simply outplaying you. If it weren’t for tron or haggar these people would be beating you with the next best thing. The people whining now are going to be whining in umvc3, and umvc3AE, and umvc3AE2012, and mvc4.
hsien ko players will whine until the entire cast is pulled down to the level of their zombie boob-window girl