My bad, that’s why I had the word nerfs in quotation, I know it’s not smart to go for sarcasm on the internet but I try lol
Mags has always been gdlk and will probably remain so, kind of like Arakune in BB, they don’t know HOW to nerf him lol
Yeah, that’s kind of it. He’s very powerful because of his mobility and mix-up potential.
Also, nerfing him to shit tier would be a huge uproar. At least I think it would.
(I never pick up on e-sarcasm)
I thought Arakune’s been dropping in effectiveness with each version. Don’t take my word for it, though; I haven’t played BB for a long time and I’m only going off of what others have said.
And yeah. Imagine if Dante or Wesker or Mags were anything less than the tippy-top. The shitstorm would never end.
I’d probably firebomb the capcom usa offices
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People seriously need to get off Dante’s back. I don’t understand why people keep talking about his teleport+assists, everybody covers his teleport bc its one of the most punishable teleports if he doesn’t. By himself, teleporting is asking to be thrown. His normals are ridiculously slow and even though they have good range, you have to know how to stinger into BC if he hits from max range.
Yes his combos are long but they actually take alot of execution. That bnb that DJ posted might be a great bnb but it actually takes practice to learn not to mention how easy it is for a beginner to mess up his double motions or not bold canceling correctly. Atleast it not wesker doing simple day 1 bnbs that take off good dmg and has over a mil health. Not to mention he can easily combo off of any mess up/reset by air throwing into another combo without an assist. And atleast they’re not herp derp combos like wolverine’s who barely uses any motions. And yes I use Dante so this is biased but I’d rather watch someone execute a good Dante combo than see someone mess up…I mean reset me in to the same easy combo by wolvie/wesker and act like their tough shit bc they can do ABC into hyper
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I think what upsets me the most about Dante is the fact that he is a jack of all trades character who excels at everything he does and has no real downside. Traditionally, characters that could “do it all” would pay for their versatility by having some sort of flaw - low health, low damage, or that their versions of the moves would be inferior in some way to characters that specialized in that particular field. The only arguable weakness Dante has are his normals which are slow compared to some other members of the cast, but to make up for it most of his attacks cover a ridiculous amount of range, second only to Zero in my opinion.
The other weakness Dante players often claim is that he has no way to deal with high pressure rushdown. This is a moot point as most characters in the game have tough times dealing with pressure - the usual response is either pushblock or rely on a GTFO assist.
Sure, Dante combos may not be as simple or damaging as Wolverine, Wesker, Hulk or Sentinel derparoo combos, but that’s like… 4 characters out of a cast of 38. Dante can typically reach 600k with a basic BnB, and he can initiate his combos off of damn near anything he throws out or any accidental hit he lands. It is incredibly easy to start combos with Dante because he can control so much space at any given time, and when combined with a good assist, his mix-up game becomes pretty ridiculous.
I know you probably dislike seeing your character of choice get hated on, but typically when someone garners so much ill will from so many people, there’s probably a good reason.
For me it’s this
Magneto: Painful To block
Wesker: Too much health, gun way too good
Dante: stupid fucking 50 thousand feet hitboxes and ability to cancel everything into something else to make it safe
Wolverine: Beserker slash
Zero: You can’t hit this fucking character
Amaterasu: :h:
Dante is fine. Magneto is fine. Wesker is too damaging (I play the fucker and I recognize he does too much damage for what he has and how simple he is) but otherwise, fine. Wolverine is absolutely not fine.
When did “X is really strong.” turn into “X needs his shit nerfed.” ?
except magneto and dante are not fine. I play magneto also, and I can safely say he is too good. Maybe if its dante magneto akuma vs wesker wolverine sentinel, none of them need to be nerfed, but these characters only need to be this good to fight eachother. I’m not saying they need huge nerfs, but dante should not be able to cover half the screen with his sword swinging with all the tools he has.
I want a Dante player to seriously explain to me why, that considering everything he already has going for him, Dante needs to have the absurd hitboxes attached to his moves. If I could choose one thing to go on this character, it would be the retarded hitboxes. Keep his versatility and the ability to cancel everything into everything, I don’t care. But if the fucker is going to obviously whiff something, I want to be able to punish him without getting inadvertently tagged and comboed to death.
You think magneto is too strong? seriously? I believe him to be top 3-5, but comparing to the rest of the top tiers, he’s super balanced.
Who are you comparing him to, to say he’s “too strong”? Just curious.
(I agree on dante’s st.LMH being ridiculous, hitbox-wise. Everything else is fair, in the current state of the game)
Magneto isn’t ridiculously unbalanced. I actually think disruptor is balanced unlike most. The only thing I think that he excels at too much is mobility, allowing him to make ridiculously hard to block mixups. I have a bunch of teams. In total I play: magneto, sentinel, zero, akuma, shuma gorath, doctor doom. Two of those characters are assist characters. So between magneto, zero, shuma gorath, doctor doom, the only character around the same is zero. Again, the only thing I think is too good is his mobility which indirectly makes him insanely hard to block. Again, you are comparing him to THE TOP TIERS. Magneto is not too strong if you compare him to those broken fools, but he is too good vs everyone else. If you eat 8000 calories a day, sure you won’t eat a lot compared to a group of heavy heavy eaters who eat 10,000, but you are still eating too many calories. Yes, I realize how terrible that comparison was, but I’m questioning whether or not you have played any team/character that is not top tier continuously. If you have, I really don’t know how you can say magneto is not slightly too good.
I don’t think he’s too good, I just think the other characters in the game (besides like… 7-8 others) lack options and, overall, suck balls.
If you knew the time I have spent looking at the char select screen, trying to think of a good, original, secondary team, only to continuously think “No, this guys sucks, this one can’t move properly, this one does no damage”, you’d think I was dumb for even considering a secondary team.
(Also, I used to play Wes/X-23/Dorm. That’s not too top tier 
And your comparison wasn’t that bad. it served it’s purpose)
From what I’ve seem on here, most Dante players even agree his hitboxes need to be toned down.
Well being a posterior surface is a great hobby i’m sure but I’M actually the one playing trish against other dogs so i hope you had fun beating down that strawman. Throwing out random supers in the hopes that the other player forgets how to play doesn’t sound like “i need a nerf” material to me, quite the opposite actually. Okami shuffle isn’t going to worry anyone is terms of chip damage and while she can’t punish you directly after,you just wasted a super bar to do absolutely nothing. Fireworks says hi to divekick, only she can cancel if she anticipates it and you’re in for a world of hurt, now who has to come to who?
You brought up how ammy could beat a couple of characters at the top as though that alone makes her really bad, but there are a few characters that have good matchups against the top who are actually getting buffed. Zero has a damn mean rushdown game and can run away pretty well, so can magneto,so can wesker,so can phoenix, so can dante, so can viper,so can storm,so can jill… yea there’s more than we thought.Probably more but i’m impatient right now
I understand playing devils advocate as i do it regularly, but the first part of your post sounded snarky and i responded accordingly.Since you said x-ray is the best ammy, i want to show you a video of a great combo he does that doesn’t even kill a taskmaster who wasn’t at full life, using a THC glitch that will be removed next game. Usually when an ammy is on the team of an exceptional player, it’s actually another character that takes the role of the dstroyer and ammy is backup because she is solid but not overpowered.
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Also i can’t find the video but i’ll say that if ammy is up against a good viper without her airdash as it is now, it’s a free matchup
That combo still did like a million damage. Which is pretty good, considering.
Yea noone is saying the combo isn’t any good, but if that’s the best ammy in the world then how does that compare to the best magneto,dante,wesker etc in the world in terms of “how fair is this to play against?”
Not killling your opponent off of a sick combo that won’t even be possible in the new version is something to consider imo
Without the TAC glitch, I’d imagine Ammy’s UMVC3 dmg w/ a Lv. 3 super would be around 820k, which is pretty pathetic TBH.
I feel like there’s only like 7-8 characters that really just have no way of doing anything regardless of team setup. Most of the cast has had some kind of representation at high levels, just some are better than others. People haven’t really gotten good enough to the point where alot of the cast would be phased out.
Whether or not it would have been like this next year who knows.