Insert Kyle from South Park’s voice when Cartman tries to make him lick his balls over leprechaun bet via contract: “Really?!”
How does it have “more favorable properites”? Trish can cancel her dive kick im starting to think yall dont relise just how retarded that is
If they’re going to nerf the shit out of Tron/Haggar assists, give them stuff to make them more viable on point at least.
Haggard is a monster on point. I still say keep his invincibility assist. I mean HE TAKES DAMAGE from it. Meaning ABUSE leaves you with a dead character (almost) thats fair to me.
Haggar is not a monster on point lol. He’s slow as shit and free to just about anyone who has decent mobility. Pushblock completely fucks him over.
I’ve seen the demo video of Trish’s corner pressure with dive kicks and dashing and color me unimpressed. Properties of Wolverine’s being stagger on counter-hit and ground bounce on air hit = free combos > being able to cancel your height restricted dive kick.
…If your opponent can’t block?
Not to mention, that stagger is fucking GDLK. The fact that a player can hit you with it and stare at the screen for a second or two to make sure it hit and still combo is crazy.
lol seriously. Either that, bait out one of his slow ass moves and punish, or use a character that can easily get enough hits to cancel it if you’re desperate/crazy enough to do that. (I think XF3 X-23 can)
what about the fact that wolvies dive kick trades with anything and he gets a bounce for free everytime and he can still combo after the trade?
^Not that you’d see that much, seeing as how divekicks beat 95% of attacks you throw at it.
Oh man, you watched the demo video? Well I guess that’s all there is to know right? That’s all of the applications of Trish’s dive kick and corner pressure right there, for all the match-ups. That demo video, so good.
Alright close up the discussion forums guys, someone put out a demo video. DevilJin hit the lights on your way out.
^Did you see how Joe’s divekick OTGs and gets a relaunch off of it in his reveal video? Man he’s gonna be top tier for sure.
Logan jumps I know he will divekick so xf the blockstun and kill his ass trish doesnt have that HUGE problem cause she can cancel it. In conclusion wolverins is better against people who are stupid and LET him do it all day since EVERYTIME he does it you can
kill him. so you can keep your low to the ground dive kick I will kill him no matter what height you do it
It’s always worth it too. 
Not sure why there’s so much Zero hate when he’s never won anything ever. He’s just annoying to fight but I think he should be left alone, he takes a lot of skill to play effectively and his damage doesn’t come easy. If you’re doing good with Zero, you earned it.
And watching those Hsien-Ko videos, they should just give her the old mobility back, short, low angled jumps, cancelable pendulum, faster air dash. She’d be good!
That’s really all we as Hsien Ko players want, our mobility back. Most of us are fine with her lackluster damage.
Her c.h should OTG too. :wonder:
Most of it comes from how utterly retarded his j.h is in my case. Doesn’t help that very few people can deal with him on the ground either due to all his normals being fast as hell with as much priority as they have. Sure some of his stuff takes some execution to use but that still doesn’t get around the fact he is a pain to fight.
There’s a problem with that approach, we’ll just end up with everyone having unblockable (or unreasonably hard to react to) 50/50 that leads to 100%, and every match just boils down to who lands that first hit, because the next 2 inbounds will be subject to the same 50/50. Or everybody gets lariat that can also hit low and no recovery…and has that available as an assist as well.
Like someone said earlier, it’s hard to nerf zero’s normals’ hitboxes because of the animation, well the reverse is also true, you can’t suddenly buff Ryu’s jab to have the range of his roundhouse kick and have active frames even after his fist is retracted. Not only would that look stupid, it’ll also be impossible to remember every character’s normals’ actual hitboxes that are actually not the same as the animations show. It’s like having to remember the ambiguous cross-up property of divekicks, and apply that to every normal…not fun at all.
As a vet… and as somebody who’s accustomed to the older games…
Broken shit makes games more fun.
All command normal dive kicks are retarded in this game. And the fact that the only way to counter Wolvie’s dive kick is by XFC you r block (besides him landing away from you and possibly getting a punish) is ridiculous especially since he’s usually on point. “Used XF1 to kill Wolvie? Okay. Let me just use XF3 with Akuma and randomly spam Hadokens, tatsus, and amazingly combo into a super.” Since almost EVERY Wolvie team has Akuma last.