ULTIMATE Balance/Tier talk thread

After getting a session I’m further convinced that Strider and Firebrand are BS.

More than just Strider’s mix up/zoning he has the ability to have constant walls of pressure that build plenty of meter while piling on chip as well. I’m really liking both of these characters but would be surprised to see anyone using them to even a fraction of their potential yet. They’re both going to end up very strong to say the least.

Not surprising. Nova didn’t have a level 3 but as soon as he got out there November 15th, he really started to cramp on Magneto’s style especially with that meterless damage and interesting technologies that most other characters dont have access to.

Thus angering Felicia and activating her XF. Shulk stands no chance.

Could you go into any more detail about the strider stuff you found?

Zissou, the primary things I found about Strider were his safe constant pressure options, formation B cancelling is like Zero buster release where you get the chance to turn anything you’re doing into free frame advantage no matter what. That paired with his dash and normals is intense, I have sub par assists for lock down and even with that just being able to go in forever feels like a possibility. Firebrand has some impossibly strong mix up and has that rare trait of controlling space well from the air, he’s an excellent character and I feel neither of them will have any damage problems in too long, they have too many overwhelming tools to not be among the better characters.

Thanks for clarifying. I wonder when someone will really crack him open damage-wise.

Firebrand already kills in 1 hit on the right teams, so I doubt it’ll take long for Strider.

Im still trying to get enough time to know what im talking about with this :(. Can someone give me some links to Good new character combos and guides, maybe some week 1-2 thoughts from the community?

Click links in my sig… :slight_smile:

This isn’t mine but… More evidence Nova is S tier!
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Frank West to lvl5 starting with one bar… WTF Capcom?

At least you look like a boss while doing so

funny thing is i saw someone doing that on a local stream tonight. it seems frank and nova are great buddies.

Getting Frank to lvl4 with Nova is piss easy, this guy filled in a few gaps and upped it all the way to lvl5.

Strider is Zero you can’t runaway from. I don’t really need much explanation for him. You can just sit down with him for an hour and see that when people grind him out he’ll barely ever get hit by anything ever and basically be able to tear whole teams down until he gets hit. Basically the more people use him the more retarded he’ll get and he won’t ever get less retarded.

Formation B gives him assistless, safe left/rights with the wall cling into combos also. He basically has the best set of teleports in the game with the ability to instantly hop out of them and create stupid double overhead fake overhead crosses. Basically it’s like if Magneto could up down on top of you after teleporting next to you. Cover that shit with an assist and you get free safe mix ups.

So is IronMan done, or is he still salvagable?

Ironman is nice.

Yep, he really is this time, he just gives of the awful, terrible first impression when you pick him up.

iron man is nice. just different

to different for me mind you I’m trying to adjust because he was my main but when ever I air dash it hurts

so he kind of like doom was in vanilla.

Well, he’s kinda like Iron Man was in Vanilla, except with less suck…

The Doom comparison isn’t bad though.