ULTIMATE Balance/Tier talk thread

Strider doesn’t really seem like a sword character though. I’m liking him most as an anchor right now, he has great assists and XF3 with Uroburos is scary.

i agree that vergil vs dante is an debate that will follow for awhile.

as for strider, i’m in agreement with you on that statement. like the mix ups, and options are there but he REALLY lacks in the damage department meaning he’ll have to rely on a few more mix ups/resets to kill a character, which isn’t THAT bad but then you have to take into account characters like wesker are running around with 700+k meterless which will more or less kill strider. although he is pretty best as anchor with lv 3 XFACT and ouroburos.

Yea Spencer was always a problem I have been in the training room and playing friends all day with Hawkeye/Thor/Nova and I really cannot put my finger on exactly whats different but if Thor touches you now your’re pretty much dead… and its easier to get that initial hit with him also. It’s funny you can pretty much get through all regular projectiles on the ground with fully charged mighty smash :h: which is also safe on block…Really liking the new Thor. Also whoever said Hawkeye wasn’t a problem … you’re doing it wrong… Nova Shield assist > Exploding arrow > Triple Piercing > Spritzer will keep anyone out… for at least two runs the Shield assist even stops charging supers… (Maximum vergil,Spider,Wesker,ect) when they get close I usually just trick shot H behind them and use Poison tip call shield assist again then Super Scatter shot… Even If I havent landed a single hit they usually have lost around 50-60% health… Hawkeye is nuts… Triple Piercing and Exploding arrow are really good at covering space if you time your shots correctly. oh and if you simply press :b:+:h: then press :u: right before he shoots you will cover the horizontal and diagonal plane at the same time. Firebrand is being slept on hard… this damn demon is so annoying… I think my cousin is going to main him but jesus he is annoying. Kraawww,Grraaaaa,Krawww,gahhhkakakakaka.

Haggar can OTG off of any Command grab, any throw (don’t mash his ground throw otherwise it won’t work) and his Level 3 grab.

“Once I get my hands on you, you’re going for a ride!” - Mike Haggar, Saturday Night Slam Masters

I got swag combos with Ironman already, oh baby.

I actually like Strider first or second more than anchor. He gets much scarier with assists, and I’ve basically been playing him like people thought Zero played before they found out he could do damage. Running him first or second also lets him function decently well as a battery.

Nova is sort of turning out how I feared he might with the red health mechanic being completely a harmful one, not a helpful one. It essentially means that if you punch Nova a few times he loses access to pulse and shield. Plus it means that default pulse and blaster are shitty as can be.

I take back what I said about Zero. A few more hours with the game I see he’s just different, not necessarily bad. We’re gonna have to find out some new combos though. Some of the ones I used to do refuse to work now. I’ve got a new corner BnB, just midscreen is kind of a problem when Buster makes them fall so much faster. And his lightning loop is still in, lol. He’s still good.

1st Impressions

Vergil - DMC character which means auto high-mid tier at worst. people possibly overrating him.

Nemesis - Best big character, nice wavedash, amazing tentecle normals, great command grabs, great damage and health.

Dr. Strange - Very solid, SoV is probobly the best lvl1 in the game.

Iron Fist - Sleeper top tier, is gonnar require two GREAT assist to do anything but when he has them he will be a problem.

Hawkeye - Another sleeper top tier, solid keepaway, amazing assist, Gimblet is amazing, nice mobility and combos off grabs.

Firebrand - Meh

Strider - Fucking annoying probobly has the best teleport in the game beside phoenix, amazing normals, great assist.

Ghost Rider - Seems very limited tbh he losses badly to pure keepaway character but hes still very solid. I dont see him going higher than mid-tier.

Nova - This fucking guy scares me he does massive damage has nice mobility, versitile supers, ground overheads, great assist, combos off all grabs, energy javilin is godlike (IMO the best new character so far)

Spencer - This guy is fucking disgusting he could end up S-Tier.

Doom - Lol finally Doom has some herp derp of his own to abuse j.S footdive is possibly the best normal in the game.

Thor - Much better overall.

Zero, Viper, Dorm, Doom is looking like the best 4 right now.

I am loving this game thank you capcom.

thanks god! I was always salty the Weskers command grab literally did ten times the damage Mike’s did. He’s a GRAPPLER!

Regular bnb from vanilla still works midscreen. LMH>6h>Launch>JMMH>JMMH>JMM>Buster Lightning>Launch>JMMHS>Rekkoha

oh really, I didn’t even try that one, lol. I was going for LMH6H S j.M j.M j.H j.M j.M j.Buster Rekkoha S j.M j.M j.H j.S and they just…randomly fell out at times.

I was all set to crown Phoenix Wright as a god in this game, but then it happened yesterday: Bad evidence, bad evidence, meat, meat, Bad Evidence, Bad Evi…DEAD! I’m not traveling to a tournament to roll the dice like that with this guy. I had a good setup too (forced opponent to block a super, DHC to Maya so I could gather evidence). Fun character, yes and turnabout mode IS great. But he was done after that experience.

I say look for a Vergil nerf patch within 3-6 months. With that ouroboros super activated, it feels like a free hit. He seems like he’ll make an excellent anchor/X-Factor Level 3 whore.

I’m liking Firebrand. He strikes me as a combination of Trish (air mobility, projectiles and tricks) and She-Hulk (rapid fire A, excellent slide). The low damage is noticeable because of his low health.

I want to like Ghost Rider, but he seems to have issues VS full screen zoners. Even the fireball with the whip doesn’t quite reach. I was playing against Wesker and it’s like, “You shoot the gun, you win. You teleport in, you win even bigger.” Hoping for some technology for this guy, but it seems like a rough ride from the start.

I was going to drop my vanilla team for the Vergil or Strange hype team. After playing, I personally believe that my whole team was buffed as individuals and by the system changes. Akuma is a much stronger character now, Zero is about the same (thought he changed a lot), and Dormammu is immensely better. I plan to do a write up on what I think about my team and its characters soon.

swiss cheese is fucking funny

well played capcom

Watching Honzo’s stream as well ;)?

lol yer

but ive seen it a few times now wolverine starts a combo SWISS CHEESE :frowning:

Thank god…I don’t have to put with Vergil’s super uber drone assist sword mode.

On the other hand…lol
www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9Oiw1BVE7j0#!

Arthur is no longer Low Tier.

His instant overhead is FUCKING GOOD and his invincibility in M sword gets him out of many chipping situations and is great as a punishing tool.

Welcome to Mid Arthur, hopefully you climb even higher.

Is kinda funny! He reminds me of Yoshimitsu in his offensive approach now.

Let me just get this out of the way.

The best new phrase to come out of UMVC3 so far is definitely ‘Rope Cancel’ (referring to Task’s spidey swing being cancellable). I might have to make a t shirt out of it.

ZERO IS A GOD

only thing different is the level 3 soft knockdown…but then they get up fast for you to swing your sword again, :slight_smile: