ULTIMATE Balance/Tier talk thread

this character is gay as fuck. like i said before, my offline sparring partner runs this little critter and trust me when i say blocking him is hard as fuck due to size ( this is an issue when a bunch of assists are on the screen ) and he have self-made instant overheads making his mix ups something scary. and it’s hard to gain space with that gay ass burrow.

Firebrand’s damage isn’t so bad… it’s like 500-600k but unlike strider, it’s very consistent and easy to convert and his super is easier to get max damage from. I really like firebrand, he did really well for me in practice vs people. His XF1 infinite is pretty cheesy too, I got a theory that you can do it off his ground drag move kinda like how wolverine would do dive kick and then x factor and kill whoever, need to test it when I get the chance.

Only thing I disagree on firebrand’s design is his level 3. It doesn’t really feel good enough to warrant 3 bars. Kitty helper is 1, so why is demon helper 3?

That’s it.
Team I’m a Masochist and I’m Loving it: Strider/Firebrand/Viper.

Also, can someone explain to me WHY THE HELL they give Wesker that broken as sugar honey iced Shit on a shingle buff? WHY IS HE BEING REWARDED FOR GETTING HIT?
" BUT HE CAN’T GUNSHOT INTO ABC ANYMORE"
Well he can still call an assist and teleport and stay in that ass, ON TOP of resetting you. While someone like strider, has to shake dem cheeks, work a corner, turn a trick,etc. for 600k without 3 bars. Not to add the fact that Wesker could take punishment as well.

Had to quit playing online, because EVERY SINGLE match it was a/b/Wesker or Wesker/a/b. Mostly every other match it was Wesker/Dante/Vergil.

He’s SO dirty lol. I’m considering dropping both my teams just to work on him, the problem is I don’t know who else to play with him.

i’m not going against your opinion or anything. but can you please elaborate on what you meant by strider’s damage not being consistent?

Still asking myself this too…

Praying to my sentinel shrine that whatever convinced them to nerf sentinel early in vanillas life, the same happens with Wesker lol.

Only character in the game with XF level 4.

It’s hard to convert random air hits to max damage a lot of the time and landing legion is kind of difficult since it doesn’t always do the max damage that it can do for no apparent reason, and you have to hit your j.S really late in the air series and then Legion almost exactly when you hit the ground to connect it. If every opening was a ground hit with a formation B behind you, he could probably break 500-600k every hit but in practice he usually does closer to 400 or less it seems, atleast in these early days.

Firebrand, atleast if he smacks you with a random j.C or something he can just do Bon Voyage or Dive kick and then do his standard combo.

oh! in that case then yea i can agree.

dr strange double beam

burrow twice and if they duck it drop a grenade if they block it (most have to do it standing) stab them in the ankles

I don’t know yet, but world renowned scientist are working fast and around the clock to unlock and understand the full potential of Ds graces tec.

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There no need for alarm, We will keep you posted.

credits to Chipp Zanuff v5

I’ll try it out. I’m using Hawkeye right now too so I can combo into Grab Bag. Stole that from FlashMetroid lol

Flashy Nights, I want you to wisk me to the bedroom and make sweet love to me, while screaming BY THE GRACE OF HAGGOTH.

Srsly though, that vid was sexy as hell. Looks like Dr.STrange isn’t going to be scrub friendly (Woohoo!) as Phoenix used to be.

My favourite thing about Wesker is how you can land on top of his normals from behind and he is able to easily convert it into a full herp derp relaunch+assist combo into team super

Did Capcom seriously sit there during rebalancing, looked at his normals and decided j.M was the only one that needed changing… heck they made it faster WHILST MAKING HIM FASTER!!! WTF?

/obligatory Wesker salt

Alright, this mentality is starting to tick me off.

Players, I ask this of you. Please don’t purely follow your knee-jerk reactions or emotions.

You see something powerful, and believe it to be bullshit. That’s perfectly fine. Everyone has pet peeves in this game. Wesker is highly understandable.

But there are so many requesting for nerfs, crying about OP, pleading for buffs. What ever happened to learning the game? What ever happened about bettering oneself as player?

In Vanilla, Sentinel was a powerful character in the early life of the game. High life, easy execution, high damage, good assist, great normals. The character was pretty much an express win. But that was when people will still learning the new game. Remember, this was before people recognized Wolverine, Wesker, and Phoenix as top tier threats.

Now interestingly enough, at a Norcal Major (Dromstruction), I was playing casuals with Kbeast. The PS3 we were using did not have sentinel’s life patched, so he was at 1,300,000. Guess what? That hardly mattered.

The match-up was known, the game was familiar, and guess what? Sentinel felt… balanced!

But hey, now look at the character, the Sentinel boards have like one or two threads updated since UMvC3 was released. Poor robot. Where are the people who bitched about him? They are jumping on Wesker now.

Learn the game, practice your match-ups, find counter measures to Wesker. Did you guys read the UMvC3 guide?

There’s a quote that went something like: Winning is a consequence, losing is a chance to learn.

My weaboo is going off, is that Soul from Soul Eater? I Swear to Vishnu if I’m right, I’m going to cut myself.

Anywhoo’s, It pusses me off that someone like Wesker, or even Doom received somewhat good changes while someone like Tron (who was awful on point) got nerfed to hell.

Not my video, but I’d gladly take you up on yo offer.

Lots of characters can set up stuff like that solo though. It’s good sure, but why would I pick strange over strider, Dorm, Nova, Phoenix, etc… when they seem to be better characters.

Right now I’m thinking Strange for “outclassed” tier. But he’s got enough tools that after the strange people unlock more, that could change.

Off the screen crumble beam teleport mix up after a combo that build nice meter and did nice damage?

Ds for Mr Nice Watch tier, its only a matter of time.

It’s still a basic left/right. The fact that the beam is offscreen is kinda irrelevant because you have plenty of time to react to the firing animation.

What makes a mixup better or worse isn’t how it works, but ho difficult it is to block it corectly. Everything I’ve seen from strange isn’t any better than what most characters can already do.

Sure is, better get your blade out bro

And yeah even though it doesn’t bother as much as I like let on, if character’s like Tron, Sent and She-Hulk weren’t nerfed to crap and character’s like Hsien-ko were buffed to a point where it’d mean something, I probably wouldn’t even be acknowledging that character right now, it’d just be cool if he were a little less mindless/autopilot

We used to talk a lot about pairs (best friends) in these boards. Who do you guys like as the new best friends?

I like:

Dr. Strange and Dr. Doom
Zero and Vergil
Frank West and Dante

And here is a little contribution I made to Nova tech and also to the synergy between Nova and Trish:
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I am not sure if these two are “best friends,” but there is a lot of synergy between them. As I discussed in the Nova forums, a lot of this can be done by Nova alone saving a meter, and considering how high Nova’s damage output is, he may not need this. Though, if you choose to use the two characters together, this is an option you have, and this set up can be very confusing due to is ambiguity and visual confusion.