ULTIMATE Balance/Tier talk thread

Strange is going to take some time in the lab to be effective. I’ve found some success by pairing him with a beam assist, but overall his mobility is kind of ass, his projectiles are really slow, and his combo damage is mediocre. The best thing about Dr. Strange is his spell of viscant, and that’s only because it tracks from anywhere with a giant, ass-raping pillar. Even hitting Dr. Strange does not stop the pillar from popping out, which makes it even scarier.

Hey, at least it can hit Ammy.
And effing Rocket Raccoon.

Definitely agree on that stuff. Book of the Fraud is gonna make that character.

I’m serious Magnetic faggotry is such a good move. People need to be whoring it. It’s retardedly stupid.

Just did more lab work with Strider and Firebrand, why don’t more people play these characters again?

I don’t understand how Shockwave pushes back on block and Mighty Thunder doesn’t.
Just… why?

Gimlet is 9 frames start up total, and instant hit. You can punish a jab whiff with that. I’m sorry, but there is absolutely nothing Phoenix can do safely against against Hawkeye while he has meter. If he has 2 meters and XF or a DHC partner, you can’t push a button. The damn thing has 42 frames of hit stun to DHC with too. Gimlet is the kind of shit that the only real strategy against it is playing in person, with unbound buttons, and hoping you can use the sound of a press to fake them out.

If Mighty Thunder did not have 30 times the start-up, it would bother me less

Do not get me started.

People will start using it as soon as they realize how crazy it really is. Honestly though, I think Doom with Hidden Missiles probably has more synergy with the team than Wesker does (you can probably do 2 instant overheads or an instant overhead into a sweep off of the block stun that missiles provide). I only use Wesker because damn it, it’s Wesker. I know I can always bring it back with him no matter how far behind I am.

A lot of people are trashing Ghost Rider because they’ve heard a few top players have reservations about him, but I don’t think they’ve played with him enough to figure ways around his shortcomings and properly use assists. He can actually cover a lot of angles that most other so-called keep-away characters can’t. For example, strange doesn’t have any “gtfo off me” move close to the heartless spire, but you won’t hear anyone counting him out from A-tier status just yet. The game is still young and everyone is assuming he’s going to be a mid-tier character, but I’m not so sure about that. His normals stuff assists and control space like nobody’s business and if someone goes into the lab I’m sure they can find a TOD combo with him from full screen distance. Hell, I can do 800k from full screen and two meters already and I barely got the game yesterday.

My roommate is hogging the tv right now, so I can’t experiment. Can anyone try out Ghost Rider instant overhead + She-Hulk torpedo assist (the low one)? I want to know if you can combo off of it.

Yeah strider is impossible to lame out, I feel like (I know this sounds nuts) but Striders should block less and attack more. If you get hit you get hit but high level players can’t be blocked much, everyones mix-ups are too good, use that sword and just challenge them. I need a friend with a really good footsie game so I can see what’s dependable.

more people don’t play strider because a majority of players feel that damage is everything when in fact they don’t really need more than 2 mix ups to kill a single character if your on point. people need to open their eyes and see that the reason strider doesn’t have wesker level damage is because he is the only character in this game that lacks absolutely nothing. his mix up/reset game imo is the best in this game bar none. every teleport for example is literally a 50/50 guessing game for your opponent thanks to j.l double jump instant overhead bullshit because you can go for the j.h or just drop down to fake it and this isn’t even scratching the surface of this character because everyone just think strider is nothing but vajra assist and xfactor level 3 orbs.

I can see how good firebrand can be

however he just pisses me off watching him move

I don’t even know how I am ment to hit him

D_Dollars: Imma get this shit tonight and train. Gimme one week. Then you feel the power of the Sons of Sparda.

k thnx I love you bai bai.

Because “Look at that SHIT DAMAGE!”.

Jokes aside, I have no idea. Firebrand’s not *that *difficult to learn; yeah, he’s no Wesker, but he has fairly forgiving timing on his BnBs.

Spell of Vishanti as outlined above.

Seriously Doctor Strange for counter pick tier. He hits all those pixies (Firebrand,Spider Man, Joe etc.) and all those characters that rush you down in impossible to stop ways (Zero, Strider, etc.)

Because people hate putting in work with characters that haven’t been deemed god status, especially since people are still on Wesker’s balls.

I’m surprised more people aren’t playing Firebrand, that guy is going to cause the salt to flow in a few months.

lol i’m already feeling the power of a dark knight because i <3 vergil so much. plus he compliment strider pretty well for his mix up game. dante though, fuck him. i never cared much for him lol.

and no doubt man, can’t wait till we play.

800k is mediocre? That’s without his level 3! :wink:

Rocket Raccoon for top tier and high execution tier.