This thread shows how fish out of water people are now that they either have to have high execution or do actual mix ups and resets with characters that have retarded potential for resets and mix ups.
although I agree Ghost Rider is very good from full screen away, when your opponent closes that gap, he’s pretty much screwed.
he has little to none options to run away and his normals suck real hard in short distances.
If you look at Hawkeye for example, he’s got at least the same zoning potential, but he’s much better up close… and on top of that he’s got a “punish everything” super, no matter how I look, Hawkeye just seem to be quite a lot of steps ahead of Ghost Rider in terms of power… This alone is reason enough for GR not be a top tier candidate… but… well, I can be just wrong… lol.
See, this is why I should not post in the tier discussion.
Other than that, my point still stands.
At least MK had that Downsmash.
Firebrand doesn’t look to do superb damage.
Metaknight had a nigh unpunishable teleport, a sword that beat all other normals, his normals were stupid safe, multiple jumps and he could fly. No one in his game could fuck with him.
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Metaknight for MvC3?
Don’t worry, the SRKBoards committee will ban him.
Is it me or is sent a terribly sub-par choice for anchor now? I might drop him because I’m not going to run him on point. Assist is still golden though.
He was only getting worse for actual fighting on point anchor purposes as the game went on. He has one of the worst mix up games of all the anchor characters and is easy to block down and advance guard out. Most of his scary normals smaller characters can just dash under and screw him over for. The main thing with him being anchor is the assist which is great for a bunch of characters. He’s definitely more capable fighting as anchor than say Haggar but in Vanilla it was proven that you could be even worse fighting by yourself than Sentinel and still be a powerful anchor.
I would say especially since it’s works as an untight block string it’s still worth having Sent as anchor seeing what the assist does for characters. The assist gets countered a bit hard against other fast, durable projectile assists but once you get in it works well regardless.
No. Wolverine is Metaknight. SWISS CHEESE = Neutral A.
I’m highly disappointed. I’m 99% sure Maximilian confirmed that Sentinel assist was now a true blockstring. Lo and behold, Sentinel assist still isn’t a true blockstring. :nono:
Meta Knight is in our hearts…
I think the only actual changes it got was that the hit box moves up a bit higher now and it Sentinel appears on the screen more quickly.
Seriously lets list who is a good anchor… because we keep talking about how 80% of the cast isn’t a good anchor.
Wesker - No need for an explination
Spencer - Gets in there for free and has a lot of options
Magneto - Tri dash/air option select game even crazier
Viper - Seismo pressure/chip is bananas
Dormammu - Chip Chip Chip
Vergil - WITH meter he has a built in left right at all times
a little gap
Dante - a lot less scary in XFC3 than people think… still pretty scary
Dr. Strange - Underrated IMO. Vishanti pre x factor activation is a free kill (with a 2nd Vishanti or teleport IP loop). Toss the shit out of Daggers of Denak
Felicia - sort of like a less good Wesker
Firebrand - So many options. Its impossible to block him correctly… you just have to get lucky
Hawkeye
lol you always jump the gun on shit like this. its just week 1. we dont even have a consensus tier list yet
if i recall right in vanilla you said that wolvie would get mad figured out and wouldnt dominate the game early on. and that x23 was better than wolverine. japanese players will bring mad tech to evo etc.
Its funny the firebrand player we have here used R.O.B, Game and Watch and Diddy Kong as some of his main characters in brawl. Firebrand is like a combination of all of those characters.A little shit with great mobility, projectile zoning and great rushdown too with overprioritised special moves.
Wolverine did get figured out except Wolverine was so OP that you pretty much had to put Haggar on your team to figure him out. Haggar assist alone pretty much took Tokido out of top spots at Evo. There was a reason Viscant had Haggar assist because that was the only real thing in the game that stopped Vanilla Wolveirne. He ended up being that ridiculous of a character where the best counter to him was a fucking assist. We learned later on that Wolverine had 2 or 3 things that were absolute OP and should have never had to begin with and Capcom removed them. Now he’s just average rush character.
Either way…Justin Wong and others put Wolverine out by himself to be number 1 character in the game when it was obvious he wasn’t and other top tier characters clear countered him. Which I stood by and ended up being correct about.
X-23 is baically the better Wolverine now that Wolverine basically can’t even approach as easily as X-23 anymore like people thought he would be like originally so there’s that.
It’s obvious the Japanese just don’t play the game as in as much of a concentration as they do SFIV so I guess I had to expect only so much.
Zero might end up being a decent anchor in ultimate imo. With how fast buster charges in XF3, combined with buster cancels he has a good solo mixup game. He also has much easier solo bnbs in x-factor compared to vanilla (s.S->sj.MM H sentsuizan->sentsuizan buster cancel->L hienkyaku->repeat). iirc he also gets a larger speed boost duirng x-factor than he did in vanilla (which would’ve been a problem if the above BnB weren’t so super easy lol).
Not much reason to put him on ahchor slot though, because his assists are pretty ass outside of sougenmu. And it’s a waste because of how good his is on point with assists backing him.
My friend actually taught Tron was broken in MvC3.
I agree on Morrigan being tougher than Viper. Her whole gameplan revolves around using flight-cancels, and the constant QCF/QCB motions are not that hard to get used to, but one small mistake can get you stuck in flight mode leaving her open for an attack.
well yeah of course in the nerfed edition she is better. but you did speculate (with some pretty severe conviction) she would overtake him in vanilla.
dont get me wrong, i like reading your posts in this thread. you have some pretty insightful views on the game, and discuss punishes for shit etc
just lol at how convinced you are of some things so early on in the game. wasnt chun li and sentinel on point considered top tier week 1 vanilla as well lol
I don’t know who is a good anchor, but I know Hawkeye is a bad anchor. I will stand by it till I die.
I think Sent is just the same as an anchor. Takes patience and a lot of footsies and you’re still likely to be at a disadvantage.