Arent games supposed to about fun goodm0urning? And if through tinkering with system directions you can create more fun, wheres the harm.
As i said i not trying to change the face of 3s, and convert everyone to no parries. Not my intention at all.
I don’t know if it will change the game for better or worse (probably elements of both, some parts of the game would improve, other parts would get worse), but if people just flat out refuse to even contemplate it, let alone even discuss it, and god forbid try it, then we will never know.
read caliagents post again, start thinking for yourself, you don’t need to ask me.
People have fun playing world tour mode in alpha 3, and i still see it being brought up on this site from time to time. are they allowed to enjoy it? sure. but they’re not going to be able to start any serious discussion about it. The competition is playing 3rd strike, not r3ko custom edit #5.
“The competition is playing 3rd strike, not r3ko custom edit #5.”
That sentence alone proved you hadn’t read a thing i’ve posted. Also I think its pretty evident i do think for myself, i don’t just follow what other people say on here like a puppy so i can be accepted, like some people :rolleyes:
I dont understand why its so hard for people to accept a new(ish) game. For example when there is talk about playing MvC2 with certain rules that would make other characters playable you start seeing some of the same comments that I’m reading in this thread. When the possibility of an upgrade to SF2 HD was announce same thing, no one wanted any of it. And now this with SF3.
I can understand that if you’ve played a game in a certain way and trained hard to be good at it, becuase you like the game the way it is(maybe not all together but for the most part), you dont want that to be changed. But at the same time you probably play other games that are very different from that. So why is it that people cant even try out a game that they like with some changes, maybe big changes but what does it matter if no one is asking you to give up the game the way it used to be?
I personally think these type of things are disscused to much, we should just try it and see what happens what harm can it do.
Yes. I wasn’t taking issue here. I was agreeing with you on this, while still attempting to carefully delineate the fun of system tinkering from the fun of real competition, which can only happen with the standard version.
Even without parry, projectiles suck ass in 3s. Hadoukens come out and travel too slow in 3s so traps would probably require EXs.
I think jump-ins would be more unsafe. Without parry, the opponent on the ground doesn’t have to worry about you parrying so using anti-air is now always a good idea.
Would this make Hugo vs Urien completely hopeless?
Dude these kind of system direction changes topics for 3S are overkilled. Your thread isn’t being taken seriously because it’s been discussed, it’s been over-discussed, and people are sick of a new one popping up every month about old discussed topics, these dumb threads need to stop. Yeah the search doesn’t turn up shit, tough luck, you missed all the debates, people aren’t gonna repeat themself over and over to new kids coming here to discuss old topics.
SRK is a competitive scene for competitive players, if you are looking for ‘fun’ over competition then you need to look for a different community like gamefaqs perhaps.
your thread is worthless. you make a complete theory fighter thread, and even as far as theory fighter threads go, any end result of this " serious discussion" is still 100% useless. as for caliagents quote, it simply deads your thread. i think you’re at LEAST smarter than a monkey so i’m not gonna list all the obvious reasons why taking parries out of 3rd would be bad. if you were thinking at all before you made the thread maybe you could’ve realized that. or maybe making pointless shit is just your thing.
and hey, sometimes people post your own thoughts before you get a chance to. so get off with that shit:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
3s threads like this are funny. Any topic or title/subject that questions the games supposed perfection results in mass responses of, “dumb topic”, “stupid idea” etc and others getting all bent out of shape and defensive for no reason.
Yeah, this thread is stupid mostly because it’s been done over and over, but why let it go on and on by even give the thread starter a reply beyond what caliagent said, because that’s all that needed to be said. Now instead of having a topic end on the 3rd post it’s spiraled onto the 3rd with no-one saying anything worth reading in between.
Hold on a second its not like i am some 2007 asking a random question. I’ve asked some good questions. And it doesn’t really matter if its been discussed before, because people don’t hold the same opinions and ideas for all eternity.
As i’ve said countless times now i am not looking to make everyone change how they play 3s, I’m not saying we should all be turning parries off. I as just trying to get answers for my original 4 questions, but everyone is blinded by the word parry, and need to get all defensive about it. Is that how weak parry is, you guys afraid of discussing it, cause it might expose it for what it really is, just a gimmick, that 3s could probably well live without?
Yes fighting games are about competition, but if thats the only thing you get from it and you lose the fun, whats the point in playing anymore? So you can perform some fancy Japanese setup? Or show how you can better than other people? Win a little money?
“your thread is worthless” Great reply. You really avoided the whole question there. I award you on your wishy washiness. All fighting games start with theory, or do you just play blindly without ever considering how you will play?
I’m well aware of what sort of ramifications there could be when you take parry out of the game, i just wanted other peoples input, because regardless what you may think, i know people don’t all have the exact same thoughts. But apparently even thinking about taking out parry is against the law here.
This is not what the thread is about at all, originally anyway. The people that answered turned it into what it is now. I asked 4 simple questions, but they are too tough to answer, people hide behind the defense of “dumb thread”, “idiot idea”, cause they honestly got no decent answers.
And saying all this has been done before is a cop out too. Cause you’d probably gave that exact same answer in the previous threads.Where are all these mystery threads? No has posted what was found in those in relation in what i have asked.
What is sad is that you fail to realise is that not everyone posts on Shoryuken for pretty obvious reasons. People don’t know about/care it and its too hostile here.
Also i am staff at Neoempire, so why wouldn’t i post the exact same thing there?
Anyway, someone might as well lock or close this thread, its pretty evident people don’t want to discuss this. Too many sheep on here. I’m sure many of you after reading this will want to fire back, but don’t bother yourself, cause i won’t be reading, unless of course you just want to impress other 3s players with trolling skillz.
Which parries are you referring too? If it’s regular parries, then no problem. But, if it’s Red parries, then I disagree. I never got why Third Strike has two types of parries, because Red parries are enough in my opinion.
Even if I know you’re not gonna read this(or maybe you will, since no one EVER means what they say on the internet if they continue to use that site), I’m gonna give you the same answers that have popped up in every last “3S Parries/No Parries???” thread since the damn game came out.
-It will make characters with strong pokes, zoning, frame traps and projectiles stronger. It will make anti-airs VERY viable. It will make people who are already disadvantaged even more disadvantaged(lack of at least one of the first mentioned properties, additional disadvantages like size, Hugo)
-It all depends on the BS that would evolve from being forced to block things that are free parries. Personally I think it would be worse, as there are already setups that you’re forced to parry to get out of(air reset supers? Urien/Oro unblockables? SRK xx Denjin?
-Considering the entire dynamic of the game would change, the only ones that would play are the ones that are already open to Sys Dir, which aren’t very many.
-I doubt Viscant would play it. lol j/k Seriously, I don’t particularly like 3S(mostly because they raped Sean, but that’s for another thread), but parry is a necessary evil. As the game is now there’s no way it would even get the people that hate it to play it.
And that’s not a good thing.