Truth about Capcom "balancing Games"

i think that there is a terminology similar in concept on box and other martial arts but i cant recall what was the word/words

“his ground game was so strong, i got blown up on the stream.”

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And a foot is part of your body, doesn’t make your body a foot.

the thing is that in games like sf, footsies are you spacing game, compared to other games with more options like kof, GG, AH, MB

I still don’t understand how Bitter hasn’t been banned. He’s either blatantly trolling or retarded, and regardless he needs an infraction at the least.

So “spacing” is considered a state of mind? I guess that’s where the term spacing out comes from. The fake word footies sounds like something an elementary student would make up. It doesn’t really matter I suppose, the better player is the right one. I find it hard to believe a good player would have a lot of clogged up thoughts. Meh, I only believe in movement of your characters and actions and mind games on how you move your character and what actions you chose.

metaphysics phd

I lawl’ed at the tags for this thread. :lol:

inside capcom’s elevator system the overhead radio plays shalamar - games.

Why can’t capcom make a good poke system other than with lows and tripsxxSpecial/super etc?

chess is the epitome of a balanced game. both players start with the exact same number of pieces, and each piece has the exact same ability; the only difference between players in chess is black vs white and starting order. other than that, chess is balanced, therefore it’s up to the players to decide their own strategy.

street fighter–as well as all fighting games-- should be about individual strategy. a player with an inferior thought process should not be able to touch a master player, simply because his character has a better moves list. you won’t see a grand master chess player struggle against a novice player; however, in street fighter 4 some noob can learn to spam with guile or akuma or use abel and do fairly well after playing for a month. it’s stupid. every character on this game should have an equal chance of beating any character, with the moves they have. instead, you have a megaman type system where certain characters beat others, and counter-picking is encouraged.

street fighter players hate on mortal kombat, but mortal kombat 2 is the most fair fighting game i’ve ever played. it’s not perfectly balanced–since players like jax and mileena and liu kang have cheap, overpowered moves, and players like reptile are very weak–but if you master the game, a novice player can pick top tier players and practice for years and never beat a seasoned veteran. also, i find it funny how much dial-a-combos are criticized by the sf community, but what the hell do you call abel’s auto moves, or ibuki’s or guy’s? that’s dial-a-combo!

street fighter makes the game unbalanced so it is more accessible to new players, thus creating more sales, which results in more profits; it’s not right, but it’s what they’ve stooped to since the arcade scene is dead outside of japan. a similar situation has recently occurred with the madden franchise. in that example, their latest title: madden 11, was nerfed so that kids and novices could pick the game up and have a shorter learning curve to overcome. that’s not fair. if i lose in a game, i’d like to know that it’s because my strategy was off, and not because i had less moves in my arsenal. imagine if chess consisted of white having: 3 pawns, 5 rooks, 3 knights and 2 queens; and black started with 2 pawns, 4 bishops, 3 rooks, 2 queens and 4 knights? dumb.

overall, since none of these games are balanced, they are closer to poker than they are to chess. in poker, you are dealt different hands(i.e. different moves in sf), and someone may be dealt 7,2, while another is dealt AA; in theory it is possible for the 7,2, player to beat A,A, either by bluffing or dumb luck, but statistically it is not a good match-up. the problem with this is that a low player like hakan, just gets folded and everyone just sticks with guile or abel or other top tier chars.

Thats why I disagree with Seth Killian over intentional nerfing “non-showcase” characters just to get casuals interested. The fact of the matter is that crap is crap,a gimped characters takes away from the entire game because he’s there. Its like going to school and aceing every exam and get a 0-f on your last test, it wastes the overall
product. I know casuals are shallow and would buy a game with a dancing panda with a vegas hooker as a bodyguard but hey hardcore gamers buy more than just porno and
pointless repetitive rushed trash on a disc. We want more than that.

Games are art. They should be perfect or in the process of trying to be perfect. Crappy/useless/situational/gimmicky characters punish the player for wanting to be different.How about rather than punishing him on that punish, punish the player on failing a challenge of abilities(competition).Not on s--- they can't control or change. If you going to put imperfection into a game for the sake of sales just leave them out and release Hyper Super broken fighter// 25.5 Gold XX Special Edition 25 Anniversary Upper. Give us the 3-5 balenced characters and give the noobs thier 60 broken characters and all thier infinites,broken hitboxes, and resets. 3-5 characters sucks but at least I KNOW i am the better player at the end of the match.

If you have 4 good balanced characters ship that. Not 4 god tier boss/cheat characters ,1 top tier mildly broken character,3 average/ok characters and 5 auto-loss/"why the f--- did they bother" characters. Just ship the 4 god tier characters and press that on my xbox DVD-rom. Don't give me a half-assed product for full price.Not when we know you can do waaay better.

In a nutshell Chess > SF

actually this is wrong

Footsies is what you play with girls when you are 12.

I say we just call it spacing.

Streetfighters not chess you retards stop making that comparison. Besides you want to get overly technical and make that stupid chess comparison then Streefighter is just as balanced. The game starts at the character select screen. Your dumb ass is the one who chooses trash like Dan. Sssf4 has a large selection of very usable characters. Either make wiser decisions at the character select screen or shut the fuck up and deal with your decision. Fuckers these days cry like no other. You admire chess’s balance so much go play fucking chess. Streetfighters not chessit works in a completely different enviroment so you stupid comparisons don’t work.

Did you read his post? Regardless of whether you prefer SF or Chess, his argument is that Chess is better because SF has more than one playable character, which is pretty much nonsense o_o.

The obvious fallacy with the stupid chess comparison: Chess is a mirror match…

How? How would a game with 4 good characters and nothing else be better than a game with the exact same four good characters and five more characters who aren’t quite as good? The game’s mechanics don’t change, so why would SSF4 be an inherently better game if Dan wasn’t in it? You can replace SSF4 and Dan with 3S and Twelve or MvC2 and Roll or… whatever else you want.

I agree, chess is inferior to SF because Chess doesn’t allow for long ranged games. If Chess had projectiles I could see that, but not in its current state.

Chess doesn’t have FADC Ultra. Inferior.

Queen is OP man. why even use pawns when the queen is so good? game’s unbalanced as fuck.

oh god lord…