No one has still seen what exactly is comboable after EX hori ball. Initially it sounded like you needed to waste 3 bars (ex ball -> fadc), but now it sounds like it may just take one bar. Perhaps it is an OTG combo into ultra 1 or 2 I would gladly take a slide tacked onto an ex ball. That combo would actually do pretty good damage, just for the cost of one bar.
honestly 1 frame different should still mean they are possible. I think the very tight ones might be messed up, but against guile you have a billion frames to hit j.mk atm, so Iām cautiously optimistic.
If not Iāll find some new cheap stuff for you guys, you know Iām good for it.
I spoke too soon⦠totally forgot the unblockable setups was actually possible to get nerfed
iām hoping iāll get to play the AE 2012 version in the arcade sooner than the console patch⦠but not that optimisticā¦
-LAU
So, both versions of the rock crusher are buffed or just the overhead version ?
iām hoping itās both version of rockcrusher⦠but from the way things sounds⦠it seems like regardless of standing or crouching weāre gonna combo it into something tasty
i guess iām ok with the tiny nerf⦠the unblockable was nice⦠but was also a bit ācheapā lol
-LAU
So Rock Crusher to U1 should be not character specific and reliable on meaty i guess with a shortened pushback.
i have to disagree⦠it made some horrible matchups more bearable⦠i love the unblockable against balrog and guile. though, i still struggle more against guile then balrog.
anyway⦠weāll see how bad the new nerfs are and how good the buffs really are.
i wonder if any of the shitty matchups become a bit easier or if some even become harder.
Rockcrusher -> s.hk? Nah⦠probably not that close.
19fr recovery, dangerous anyway.
xx Super?
Doubt it.
you know⦠if the throw is adjusted by 1 frame⦠maybe the unblockable will work on some other characters that it didnāt before??
(just a thought)
-LAU
And, they donāt mention the additionals 5F on recovery of the Upball on block no ?
Special - EX Vertical Roll: Lengthened landing stun on a block by 5F from 7F to 12F.
completely possible.
If this means you can follow up a 2-hit rock crusher with jab into elec that hits even on block for chip, I heartily approve.
Thanks my bad, i didnāt read the last change.
Ah ah, just imagine new unblockables on some characters, funny stuff. xD
why would they take away unblockables vs certain chars and add them to some other ones??
I think they tested it this time and took this UB out of the gameā¦
or Iām completely wrong and they went nuts and made the UB possible vs nearly everyone with his change⦠I doubt it
EDIT:
besides Blanka, what do you think of the other charās changes??? which MU get worse and which better???
Honestly we need the game to see the effects of thisā¦
As for other characters Iām having trouble figuring out whatās new with them over the previous change I can tell you only the character I paid special attention to before like rose and t hawk since
rose is my secondary and t hawk I was thinking of picking up then just gave upā¦
With rose sheās more or less the same her changes wonāt effect the match up despite only having buffs but most of them are more like reverts from previous versions since she didnāt get her old u2 invincibility back and she was never a threat she will be the same as before
thawk is thawk you shouldnāt lose to him and theyāve done pretty much nothing to make his fight easier
against blanka
-LAU
Honda will become very very hard i think with the return of DoskoĆÆ LP AA and he has received some good buffs and he will be able to punish on block the expuball so i think this match up will blows.
Hmmm honestly I hardly ever use upball against Honda to begin with but I can agree with lp headbutt being back is annoying
-LAU
TBH Iām just hoping this change didnāt nerf his ambiguous jump ins. Iām not gonna be happy if Abel can now block either way, or just one direction after a b.throw.
hurm. Adding an extra frame to b.throw shouldnāt be too hard to accomplish in Ono. Iām crazy busy at the moment but iāll try and see if i canāt test this sometime at the weekend.