Are there any Saturn -> PS converters out there? I have a few original Saturn pads but my Saturn isn’t always working plus I don’t have the money for the Saturn version of the Alpha games.
here is anther large button pad, little bit bigger then the 15th ed pad, and bigger then the saturn.
I owned one for awhile, very well built, but not quite as good as a saturn pad so I eventually sold it.
I’d also like to take into account : Price, Convenience. I for one know for a fact I’m not going to Evo, I’m not going to any tournaments, I’m not even going to play it in an arcade (unless one day I happen to see a machine). At most I’m just going to play on Kaillera all the time. Every single player (except for a few people) are scrubs on that thing. If you’re not going to Evo or something crazy tournament, a controller just wins.
But I have a good feeling I’m the only lightweight on here, and all of you are going to Evo.
I’m not going to Evo for quite a while, but I will not rule it out.
I wasn’t going to any tournaments, either… until May of this year, when I (at the suggestion of a friend, who incidentally took first place) decided to try my hand at CvS2 in Michigan’s Mayn Event tournament. I didn’t place exceptionally high, but I had a great time and saw some amazing shit, live and in person. Now I’m already looking forward to next year, and possibly Evo North. As recently as April, you could have told me I’d feel this way and I wouldn’t have believed you.
Seriously, it’s a very thin boundary between “I’m not a serious player, so what do I care?” and “Holy shit, I can’t believe I beat all those guys and cracked the top ten!” The gist of your post is, “I don’t use a stick because I’ll never use a stick.” My question to you is, why not? Arcades are thin, but not that thin, and games cost a quarter–50 cents at the most. Your only reason for not going and not at least giving the arcade controls a good shot is because you’ve never tried it before.
I grew up playing in arcades on a stick, I can still play on a stick just fine, but usually play on a dualshock. After learning pad very well in the snes days I could always go back and forth no problem. I’ve had the same set up on sticks and pads since sf2 came out for snes.
Now that I’m actually playing a bit again due to ggpo, I haven’t had any need to go buy a stick (the one I have I bought to add better parts, like 4 years ago, and still haven’t messed with it). Anyway I think you can play most games as well on both, certain ones a stick is definitely better.
If I played any of the vs. games, I would need a stick, I know because the chains etc… are much, much easier with the way your fingers are on a stick, as well as button layout. Luckily I hate the vs. games.
I can play on both almost equally. Whoever said a 360 is hard on a pad is retarded. I might be 1% better at 360’s on a stick, maybe.
Preferance etc… I do agree a stick is better for certain games, only ones I’ve played are the vs. ones, but I’m sure there are others.
P.S. out of curiosity, which category am I in goodm0urning?
Thumbs vs. Fingers
Playing with thumbs for attack inputs is a bad idea.
Playing with fingertips for attack inputs is a good idea.
Several reasons why:
- Simultaneous inputs (horzontal, diagonal, vertical, two/three/four)
- Sliding inputs (karathrows, rollcancels, etc)
- Drumming (rapid tapping single button)
- Rapid Tapping (rapid tapping multiple buttons at the same time)
- Pianoing (rapid succession of multiple inputs / large slides)
- Mashing (holds/grapples/supers)
- Charging/Holding (simultaneously holding one button while pushing/tapping several others)
- Reaction inputs (having a finger over multiple buttons at the same time and quickly choosing which to press the moment you need it).
ALL of these I know from extensive experience are ** faster and easier with fingertips** than with thumbs.
Fortunately if you have a pad with a 6-button layout on the face (like a Sega Saturn pad), then it’s a non-issue. Because if you have a 6-button layout you can use fingertips on a pad instead of your thumbs.
However, my question is, why is holding a stick’s directional-stick with fingers better than using a thumb on a d-pad for directional inputs? The only things I can think of to gauge with are like double half circle and pretzel (rising storm) motions. Both stick and pad players suffer from “the left side” syndrome about the same, so that’s out.
sticks are not facts just prefrence
it still boils down to what feels better to you and you stick players are trying to make it seem like its a fact that sticks are better. there not because it is what you like remember that. i would be glad to take on any stick player in ATL, GA in mvc2 and see if i dont k.o ur silly ass. i know the top players in GA for mvc2 yes they play stick but they respect the fact that i play pad because they know im no scrub or nub! come at me like im a nub ill show you that maybe you are gonna second guess using ur stick! i am starting to change back in forth from pad and stick only because at the arcade i cant plug my pad. at home or a friends house i use pad. i still feel limited on a stick at the arcade though but that is the only reason i use one. so many 2d and 3d fighters are now on all the systems is why we have so many pad players. the only reason why there are so many stick players is that the games that came out back then were not on any systems and all they had to use was a stick! so now think about it if the games came out at the same time on the systems like the arcade we would have lots more pad players and good ones. :badboy:
I went to evo north with my pad. I did ok for my first time, but im definately making the big switch.
To those that are switching from pad to stick, the buttons are the easy part, the stick will give you trouble for a bit, but you’ll get the hang of it if you try hard enough.
That’s how I play any game when I’m using pad.
And I mean any game, ie platformers, rpgs, whatever.
I was playing that since the freaking NES, and I’m not entirely sure why, but that’s just how it is.
I can play on stick as well, but my execution is tighter on pad for sure.
short short xx super
My main problem with sticks that aren’t on a cabinet, is that they move more than I like. I like the fact that a pad on a console/pc doesn’t move on me. I prefer an arcade cabinet of course, but I’ve never found a way to use a stick as well on console without taping/velcroing it down.
As far as comparisons, I agree, it’s the buttons for the most part. I find charge characters easier on pads actually, though grapplers and shotos get a slight advantage on stick, for me at least.
get a life notsuper min
Why do you care so much that some people still prefer pad over stick? It’s not like pad players are somehow undermining your ability to play better. Then again, pad players have lately united under the banner of destroying console arcade sticks everywhere. But seriously, if you beat someone who uses a pad, then go get that cookie you so very well deserve. But then, I hope that your ego and value of self worth don’t shrivel up to nothingness over the idea of losing to a pad user.
Word. Advanced techniques are possible on pad…if you contort and rape your fingers 
Ever since I started using stick…i cannot use gamepads anymore…well at least for fighting games.
If your thumbs are anything like mine were after hours of playing Zangief on a pad each evening, I’d say you’d fit in as a masochist.
My ego? I’m not the one taking swipes at people.
It’s a thread about pads vs. sticks. If you can’t put up with people having their say in an entirely appropriate time and place, I’d advise that you stop reading it.
And incidentally, the only times I’ve ever lost to a pad user is when I’ve been stuck with a pad myself.
I see some people with those $1 mats that are made of like foam or rubber that you can get at like Target or Walmart.
Personally though, I don’t think I could play with a game stick on the floor unless it was specifically designed to be “really tall”. Like Jose’s toolbox. Bent wrists and hunched back = ouch.
Haha, for me it’s almost the opposite. I can do charging better on stick than on pad. But I can do DP and quarter-circle better on pad than stick. But 360’s I think I do fine on both.
Incidentally, default PS2 pads suck for half-circle and especially double-half-circle. Yet ironically default PS2 pads feel really good for 360 and 720’s, which IMO is bizarre. But yeah while we’re on the subject, I rank default PS2 pads pretty low in the pad-tiers.
With finger tips on a pad, yeah it’s possible without contorting or raping your fingers. Thumbs and shoulder buttons are just out of the question though, it’s significantly harder, slower, and more uncomfortable to do anything with thumbs and shoulder buttons.
But you need a 6-button face layout for fingertips on pad, like with Satapads.
this is a good thread ,I think the hardest type of fighter that was hard for me to learn stick on is 3d fighters like Tekken and VF,overall though it didnt take me long to learn stickfor 2d fighters
-I used to be one of the scrubs in the arcade jammin/mashin the stick
I gotta comment on something though…
Even with the Saturn pad I do all button inputs WITH MY THUMB.
If I need to do double I use my thumb and the next finger to it…I have NO problem whatsoever using my thumb to get the results I need.
Yeah, the Saturn layout is nice for some stuff. CCs on Alpha 2 used to be 2 punches and 1 kick or 1 punch and two kicks; it was easy to do. But I wouldn’t want to roll cancel or kara on those.
for all the pad people who want that sega saturn sorta arcade pad check this out http://cgi.ebay.com/Marvel-vs-Capcom-2-NEW-Arcade-6-Button-Controller-PAD_W0QQitemZ110159823313QQihZ001QQcategoryZ21188QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
just a lil something i found not sure how good it is but looks pretty sweet. if i was using a pad i would want this