I reckon the 4 nerfed characters will be a lot easier to deal with. Fei’s still gonna be a handful but Akuma has lost throw set ups while the twin’s command throw got nerfed, add to the fact that Yang does less damage than he does now and Hakan will be oiled up almost 100% of the time.
Starting off Oiled against Fei is huge. Fei has a lot of ‘win’ buttons. But guess what, so does an oiled Hakan. Instead of Hakan always being on the backfoot at the start of the match, it won’t be the same this time round. Legit.
Maybe I’m just tremendously pessimistic concerning everyone versus Fei Long. You’re right, For the first 12 seconds at least it should in Hakan’s favour if not at least even. What I’m scared about is they only really nerfed Fei’s Rekka. Damage reductions almost count for nothing so Fei’s still got those awesome spacing normals and the ability to corner his opponent.
The problem in that match was always getting oiled. I think Oiled Hakan if not beats Fei long, is certainly even with him.
Flame kick FADC being -1 is also massive. That’s a free reversal Ultra 1.
Being a non-Hakan player, can someone give me a simple explanation of the bonus when oiled. What I think I know is that you get more mobility and better defense…is this true and is there more?
Being covered in oil gives:
DNC (The ability to cancel dash with a normal attack.)
Increased attack range and dash distance (due to sliding property)
Chainable Cr.Lk
Increased SPD Range
Additional damage to special attacks
additional 50 damage to both Ultra combos
10% damage reduction
I think that covers it. I’m still new to Hakan so I might of missed something but those are the important parts.
Yeah, that’s spot on. Also has the ability to cancel his focus attack into any of his normals, and combo off of it aswell. He’s a monster when he’s oiled.
Damn! He can focus and just press a button to unfocus? Sick! I’m guessing this is awesome to do focus combos. Dude, Hakan is going to be a beast. I have trouble with him now…and the Gouken buffs are pretty minor considering yours…grumble grumble
Hakan is in fact the only character who can combo from level 1 saving attack, In itself that is a powerful tool.
Gouken buffs are better Denjin ultra, increased hit stun on cr.fp, larger kongo(counter) boxes, and the palms have been rearranged. Nothing that I have seen so far will really change Gouken’s game except for perhaps the different ultra.
He has to dash cancel and then cancel the dash. It’s DNC and FADC together, not a single button press.
Hey guys I am from Brazil so my english is not that good, I hope you have patience. ^^
I am having really problems in the Guy matchup, I think it is to hard whitout oil and and a good Guy dont give you the space to use oil shower.
I usually play with a friend that absolutely is one of the best players in my region and i dont stand a chance against him, when he puts me on the corner it is really hard to get out, cause I got to look at the frame traps, Over heads,Bushin flips, Knockdows, grabs and frame advantage after hozantos, man I really need help in this matchup. I think is one of my hardest matches even more than Yun and Akuma.
I hope you guys help me. Thanks a lot. And sorry about my grammar mistakes ^^
just a smale sidenote s.HK beats a lot of Feis spacing normals and i readet heare it gets combo opportunitys on CH…
Someone knows Hakan vs Guy matchup?
I am having huge problems with these.^^
Fwd+mp, fwd+mp, and fwd+mp. It stuffs a lot of his crap. Punish all trip slides with lp rocket and oil up. Punish all blocked overheads with c.lp slide. U2 OS post slide wakeup.
Chron! He lives! See you’ve been playing ranked a bit man, I put you on my follow list to see if I could catch any of your latest replays. Glad you’re still kicking about.
Haha thanks. I havent been playing ranked much lately but yea. It really screwed with my offline links and other timing. Usually use it for matchups. Preparing for SB though, goal is to get top 32, which I will be shocked and thrilled if it actually happens.
Sweet, that makes two Hakans now for Seasons Beatings. I’ll have my Hakan banner ready! Haha. That’s fair enough though, still good to see you in action. After Ultra David posted his wise words in the Hakan sux thread, and you responded like a warrior, you seemed to disappear, almost like you’d went to the mountains to train! lol
I definitely felt like Stallone in Rocky 4 with a training beard in the mountains at one point. Yea I started playing ranked heavily for a while, got really high up then kinda stopped for a while. Also spend a lot of time in training, practicing BDNC links while waking up and other parry tricks, which is a very weak spot in my game I want to remedy before SB. My game is a lot better, but I’m really stepping into the training room this next couple weeks and I’ll only play online if I wanna test out matchup stuff. I also need to reread and study certain matchups before then.
Awesome, good to see you putting in some work in the lab. That’s Hakans home. Yeah you should get some vids up. Well if you need some help, I’m in the middle of making a Hakan offensive tutorial…it’s nothing special, just going over some attacking stuff. Hopefully it will help you out.