Tiers for obscure games

[Stuart_Hayden]

Nope. PF2012 is awesome.

Sorry. 2 people.

[EmblemLord]

Wow.

I just read your title and that’s how I felt about you after reading your last post.

Nigga you gay. *flips you the bird just like Riley

[Stuart_Hayden]

Oh no. Someone thinks ill of me. How will I live with myself.

Any ways, back on topic.

Did anyone ever play the VS mode for the ORIGNALY (NES) Captain America and the Avengers? Where you could be Ultron, Hawkeye, Captain America, Iron-Man then 2 other villains I can’t remember.

From what I remember though. Ultron and Captain America were the best. My and my friend used to play VS mode on that game for hours.

I know, shitty new topic. But hey, it’s not Psychic Force. So it’s already better.

[MKKhanzo]

Do the Genesis one instead LOL!!

ppl im sorry some of you misundestood my post.

i was talking about TASK FORCE (TF) snes verson. on the other side TMNT TF on snes is a godlike game. underrated but a true gem and very competitive.

sorry again guys!

[Doodah]

Yeah, I agree, StuHayden is gay.

PF is awesome.

StuHayden just has no friends offline.

(here comes the red rep, I can’t believe this site still has rep, especially since you can just have a group of 5 people positive rep you everyday)

But seriously, I don’t think Stu finds being called gay offensive.

[System_1]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles IV: Turtles in Time Tier List

Top Tier
Donatello

Upper Tier
Leonardo

Mid Tier
Michaelangelo

Low Tier
Raphael

Not necessarily a shitty game, but definitely worth mentioning. You could do so many maneuvers in that game that it pretty much was a 2-d fighter!

[Stuart_Hayden]

TMNT:TiT (hahah) is one of the best beat em up games ever made. I don’t know why it’s here.

As for TMNT beat em ups in general, Don and Leo have always been the best. Manhattan Project is debatable. Michelangelo’s Kangaroo Kick was OP’ed IMO.

But yeah, Don was tops in all the beatem ups. Which is probably why he got the shaft in the GEN and SNES fighters.

[Yuna]

Apparently, that game was so broken that solid characters like Liu Kang/Scorpion get utterly raped by Bo/Dairou.

Dang.
I wish a good MK game would come out that has some of the MKDA/MKD fighters in it. Ashrah is pretty cool.

[Shishioh]

ppl im sorry some of you misundestood my post.

i was talking about TASK FORCE (TF) snes verson. on the other side TMNT TF on snes is a godlike game. underrated but a true gem and very competitive.

sorry again guys!

That’s what I meant!! I want you to do a full breakdown of that version of Task Force and post as many glitches that you can find.

[Draeger]

So…Destrega tiers?

[ThrowTheDice]

Rikard86 MUGEN game thingy tiers.

I went from downloading the characters to making the tiers in about an hour, so I’m sorry if they’re rough around the edges.

Godly:

Sachiel: Stand CD and hop CD are absurdly good, he can summon projectiles fairly fast and they help aid his already-ridiculous rushdown, what with his full-screen dragon punch, teleport grab, etc. He also has some epic mixups. Jump CD can cross up and it?s very ambiguous, and with his forward+B, the second hit is an overhead, but you can cancel the first hit into his grab which has to be crouched, and the mixup is almost instant. This guy was made to be broken.

Crawdo: OH MY GOD HIS DAMAGE. He can do about 80% with a single stock, and his supers have almost no damage scaling. His moves are superfast, high priority, and move him forward. He?s got a wicked mixup with his lows and his overhead punches. Chaining together all his specials is crazy and gives him so much combo potential. This guy was also made to be unfair.

High:

Megumi: All her normals have really long active hitboxes and great priority. Stand D might just be one of the best normals out of all the characters sans Sachiel?s absurdly unfair CD?s. Rdp+P is fast, has a huge hitbox, and has invincibility. Her fireball is fast and safe, perfect for pressure string enders, and her rush can combo off a lot of stuff. Her supers are on the meh side, though.

Mid:

Kei: Her air fireball lets her completely RULE the skies, which is a fairly big deal given how so many characters? DP?s can?t do shit about it. Her fireball is good, but other than those two all her specials are crap, her normals have very short range, and her supers are terrible.

Kimberly: Shoulder tackles are perfectly safe, and fireball gives great frame advantage from even just a few steps away. Flip kicks are rubbish, but her leap super is a good enough anti-air to make up for it. Far C is a good poke. A solid character who doesn’t excel at anything, but can do a lot of good stuff.

Mika: Good speed and if you know her chains inside and out she has some good rushdown. Unfortunately, her chains have very short range. Another very solid character: good damage, good supers, good rushdown, good anti-air, charge kick has all sort of priority and punishing ability, but she doesn?t excel at anything.

Eiji: This guy is so messed up. Due to a bug the first hit of his rekka chain is unblockable, and he can super-cancel all hits of any of his rekka chain. His qcf+k, qcb+K has awesome frame advantage, you can link stuff after it but you can?t re-combo into anything because of pushback (aww). Fortunately the fire kick rekka chain starter can be ducked, so it isn’t absurd, you just have to remember to block low. Outside of that bug, though, he?s kind of unremarkable. None of his moves, not even his sweep, hit low. His qcb+P is pretty useless, slow, and you can be thrown out of it, and his dp is an all-around better anti-air. The super version isn?t much better, its range is absolutely balls. Other supers are decent, though, and his fireball is ok. Aside from the two weirdass things mentioned above, a pretty unremarkable character. Oh, and he has a striker too. :\

Bottom:

Rikard: EVERYTHING he has is unsafe. Literally. Every single special he has. His elbow charge is decent combo filler but it (and its follow-ups) do almost no damage and it?s unsafe. His normals are slow and not that great, but he does have two saving graces: his flying kick and dp help him keep control of the air and his FotNS super is a good punisher. His kick super is a bitch to hit with, though, and overall he does a lot less damage than the other characters.

[Doodah]

Not a bad game, but I won a Blockbuster tourney when I was like 9 for Killer Instict.

I’m pretty sure I went all Spinal.

What are the tiers in that?

[EmblemLord]

Tiers for non-fighting games?

Double post!

YAY!

Tiers for Destrega. Yes, it’s a fighting game, but so what. It’s obscure and I don’t want to post it in the shitty fighting game thread since it wasn’t shitty at all. It was actually really good. One thing that really affects tiers in this game is the fact that spells have different properties when combined with other spells and they also change based on when they were cast. Some spells have different effects if they were cast while running, jumping or standing. This really makes some characters far more versatile then others. Stats also play a role. Power is the strength of an attack. Speed is how fast a spell travels. Run is the running speed of a character. Jump is how high they jump. Dash is how fast they dash. Homing is much a spell will home in on an opponent. All stats carry equal importance although speed and power are pretty much the most important. Now here is the list.

God tier

Zauber - All his spells have good attributes. His power spell shoots into the air then comes down, so it will ignore walls and hills, but will still be blocked by ceilings that opponents can hide under. His span spell spreads out then converges which allows it to get by obstacles. His speed spell is a VERY fast shot that flies straight forward. Also his span spell and power spell are both somewhat slow, so he can shoot them and then do another action while his spells close in. This gives him a good pressure game. His power spell changes properites as well. When shot in the air he will shoot in straight. If casted while running it will go up first, but it wont go as high as it does when cast while Zauber is standing. It also has the added shot effect at level 2 and 3, but only when combined with itself. So this means while dashing if he does power times 2 or times 3 he will shoot one or two extra projectiles then normal. Also, the main thing that makes him stupid good, is that his speed spell has a glitch. The very first speed spell he does in a match will automatically hit an opponent as soon as he cast it. So he can do spell speed then two power spells for increased damage, and then when it’s cast it will hit even if there are onstacles in the way. This is pretty hax. I’m unsure if an opponent can deflect or shield it, but most likely they can. Also his super move is good. Good damage and homes in on the opponent. Also the energy waves from the black hole will make his opponents take damage if they get hit by them, so they must watch out for that. Also If you want to use the spell glitch you can’t hit the spell button AT ALL. So this balances out the glitch, because it limits his moveset until he decides to do it. Also, becuase of the nature of his spells he has no bad stages and is uninhibited by obstacles. He also has a good sidestep attack. Stat wise he is a suped up Gradd. All his stats are good.

Gradd - He is good all around. There is nothing bad about him at all. Solid stats and all his spells are good. He also has an added shot effect when he cast any spell while dashing. This means that when he cast a spell, if he is dashing he will shoot one extra spell of the type he casted. So this makes deflecting spells less effective against him and his opponent really has to watch thier magic energy when they shield because they might run out of energy before that second shot hits them. Also his super is solid. Good damage and speed. Nothing much to say. He is just really good. All his level 2 spells are great as well, especially his span spells. Also his side-step attack is awesome. Very fast and hard to react to.

Top Tier

Fahlma - Another character that is good all around. His power spells have the pillar effect. They go right into the ground and go straight making pillars of energy as they travel. They go pretty far even as level 1. All his spells do good damage. His speed spell gets the extra shot effect when he jumps and casts it. His span spell gets the same effect when he is dashing. Also his span spell will reflect off of walls. His super move is good for zoning and space control since it releases light rays that cover a set distance and it last for a few seconds. His super can also go through walls. All his spells have good power behind them as well. Hills and other elevations will negate his power spell since it’s a pillar so being on the low ground puts him at disadvantage. He also has a side step attack that casues him to flip behind his opponent which makes it very easy to read and avoid. These are the main things keeping him out of god tier IMO. He has good stats all around.

Mileena - Her power spell has the extra shot effect when she is dashing. So does her speed spell when she jumps. Her span spell has some cool effects. When done normally it will go a set distance then land and create ice pillars that will form in place for several seconds. This is good for containment. When done in the air or while dashing they will head straight for her opponent. Her super is one of the best. It ignores most obstacles except ceilings and does solid damage. At long range she can spam it and her opponent has to shield it. Her main weakness is that her side step attack is telegraphed and very easy to avoid. Stat wise her speed, mobility, and jumping ability are high while power and homing ability are above average.

Celia - Her spells are crazy good and have alot of effects when combined or when she is doing different actions. Her zoning is top notch because of this. Her power spell travels slowly when done in the air, so she can pressure with that since it acts as a stand alone projectile. Her speed spell gets cool properties when combined with her span spell. The projectiles will travel for a bit then begin to go in circles in place for several seconds. This is awesome for zoning. Her super move can be used as a shield or she can follow it and shoot other attack behind it. Celia is all about zoning and pressure and her moves allow her to do this with ease. Her only real disadvantage is that her super move will be negated by hills, so she is at slight disadvantage if her opponent has the high ground. She also has a bad side step attack since she flips over her enemy first. Her power is low, but all her other stats are either solid or good.

High tier

Reyus - He has the best pillar spell. It goes farther then any other and it’s pretty fast. He gets an increased shot effect on his speed spell depending on his action. If he dashes then he shoots two projectiles. If he jumps he shoots 3. His span spell has the same effect as Mileena’s. It will shoot 3 projectiles forward that land on the ground, but this time they create fire not ice. This augments his containment game. His super is a little subpar. Damage isn’t too crazy and only hits once unless they are pinned down, so it’s situational. Damage wise he is weak, but all his other stats are solid. He has a good side step attack.

Mid tier

Cougar - His power and homing are low, but all his other stats are good especially his speed. He has the double shot effect on his speed spell and power spell. It activates while dashing and for his power spell it causes the projectiles to travel in an arc, which is good for avoiding obstacles. He is good at applying constant pressure and evasion thanks to his high stats concerning speed and mobility. His super is good too. It will go through hills which increases it’s usefulness, but it will still be stopped by solid walls and solid elevations. His side-step attack is telegraphed which hurts him. He also lacks a launcher combo that can’t be blocked once he starts it. These two weaknesses really hurt his close range game and regulate him to mid tier.

Tieme - He is pretty average. Good power and homing, but low mobility stats. His spells don’t gain any special attributes at all when he does different actions. His span spell is interesting though. When Tieme cast it he will create a soild blade of enery that stays on the field for several seconds. So this is useful for zoning/containment. Other then that though is very mediocre. His super is decent, nothing spectacular. His side-step move is good though so that’s nice. Still, he is nothing special really.

Rohzen - His homing stat is high along with his power and jumping. But his other stats are average. His spells seem to have shorter travel distance then most, so bigger stages will hinder him somewhat. His super is good for zoning and is similar to Celia’s in terms of how it’s used. His span spell will shoot out differently depending on what he is doing. In the air the projectiles will be spread far apart and during a dash Rohzen will shoot each projectile individually in a different direction. His power spell is a pillar type, but it travels in the air not the on the ground so it’s uninhibited by elevations. His side-step attack is good, but he lacks a luancher combo that can’t be blocked after the combo starts, so this hurts him. Not much else to say about him.

Doyle - He has alot of power, decent homing and dash, but low everything else. He has the worst pillar spell. It travels slowly and goes the least amount of distance. His speed spell has the extra shot effect when he jumps and when he dashes. His span spell also has the effect when he is on the ground, but not when he is in the air. His span spell spreads out if casted while he is dashing. His super is decent. Does good damage, but can be somewhat easy to avoid and he can’t really zone with it since it comes down before his magic gauge can really charge back up. His sidestep attack is good though which is nice. Still his speed, and fairly average spells hold him back.

Low tier

Anjie - She is just wierd. Her span spell sucks at actually spanning out and covering a wide area. But she does get some effects on her spells. Her speed spell gets the extra shot effect when she dashes or jumps. It can also bounce off walls. her power spell gets the extra shot when she dashed. Her span spell will bounce off the ground when done in the air. When done from a dash it will go a short distance then spreead out. her super sucks. The projectiles she shoots, bounce off the ground so an opponent can position themselves right next to where they will bounce and avoid all damage. Stat wise her power is horrid but all her other stats are good. She has a good sidestep attack too. Still she is just too weak, and her spells are a bit too subpar for her to be higher then low tier.

Bottom tier

Roane - He sucks. His spells get no special attributes and his speed spell has no speed to speak of. The only redeeming factor about him is his super. It does alot of damage and can go through anything. This is what saves him from being useless. Stat-wise he has alot of power, and good homing and speed. Honestly though his speed spell is horrid, since he casts it by creating a ball of energy first from which the projectile comes out of. And the travel speed itself isn’t great. The speed on his other spells is ok, but the fact that they have no special effects really hurt their utility. He has a good sidestep attack though so he isn’t useless. But he is clearly the worst character in the game.

Copied and pasted from another thread.

[roninwarrior24]

Not a bad game, but I won a Blockbuster tourney when I was like 9 for Killer Instict.

I’m pretty sure I went all Spinal.

What are the tiers in that?

I remember Cinder being god tier. Infinites, crossups, unblockables, etc. He had it all. Don’t know about anyone else, though.

[pizzacat83]

Does anyone have a good tier list for Double Dragon on the Neo Geo? I’m not entirely sure, but that Drunken Kung Fu guy seemed tops in that game.

Not a bad game, but I won a Blockbuster tourney when I was like 9 for Killer Instict.

I’m pretty sure I went all Spinal.

What are the tiers in that?

This is copied from another site

Banned Tier

• Eyedol

God Tier

• Cinder

Top Tier

• Riptor
• Orchid

Middle Tier

• Glacius
• Sabrewulf
• Spinal
• Combo

Low Tier

• Jago
• Fulgore

Bottom Tier

• Thunder

[Snatcher]

Anyone in here play Bleach Blade Battlers 2nd? My friends and I (who have played this game a ton) have a tier list done up, and it’s held up pretty good since we wrote it up in the end of March.

S+
Aizen

S
Byakuya, Kenpachi
Hitsugaya
Ichigo

A+
Ulquiorra
Gin
Grimmjow

A
Kyoraku
Kurosutchi
Yamamoto
Tousen
Shinji

B
Komamura
Yoruichi
Soi Fon
Chad

B-
Urahara
Ukitake, Ikkaku
Hiyori
Renji

C+
Matsumoto
Hisagi
Rukia, Kira
Yammy

C
Ishida
Ayasegawa
Yachiru
Hollow Ichigo
Orihime

C-
Luppi
Ururu
Hinamori

Bad
Kon

[Lilman]

Does anyone have a good tier list for Double Dragon on the Neo Geo? I’m not entirely sure, but that Drunken Kung Fu guy seemed tops in that game.

These guys did a pretty good review on DD for Neo Geo. Here u go.
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[azis]

The Dragon owns in Fighting Masters, followed by Beowulf. Besides the final boss, of course. The Dragon has an infinite corner trap.

** Fighting Masters** is the game that introduced wall jumps, Flying, and Triangle Jumps. More than that, it introduced the Tick Throw.

Also, it was the first game with japanese/US character names switchs, used later (lol) by SF. For example, Tomahawk, Eyesight, Beowulf and Drason in japanese version, respectively, Phoenix, Uppercut, Grinder and Xenon at US version.

The characters Dio-the plant and Zygrunt-the lobster were the ones with triangle jumps.

I should not put it in here, because it is actually an awesome game for that time, not shitty, but, refresh your memories with FIGHTING MASTERS, **the father of all modern fighting games!
**
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8337/fmastaszg3.jpg

EDIT: You can also see that Beowulf/Grinder had a move very looked like SPINING BIRD KICK.

[Dark_Geese]

These guys did a pretty good review on DD for Neo Geo. Here u go.
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Abubo- God Tier in Double Dragon…case closed… Obviously the Boss is banned…

[HeartNana]

Anyone in here play Bleach Blade Battlers 2nd? My friends and I (who have played this game a ton) have a tier list done up, and it’s held up pretty good since we wrote it up in the end of March.

What makes hinamori so bad? She doesn’t feel THAT weak, and she certainly feels stronger than Orihime…