Tier Discussion For Old School Fighting Games

Wasn’t 96 Mature CD like the best CD of any kof ever? I don’t know, though.
What I DO know is low tiers… I’m just not the reliable person for top tiers. Games I played:

L.Tiers:
Power Instinct
Annie

Galaxy Fight
Roomi

SF 2 WW
Blanka. Man, poor guy. just… man.

Sam Sho 2
Nakoruru. She can fight though, she’s just simple, that’s all.

Gamest’s Tier List for 96’ (from Darklancer’s FAQ):

Wow…who would have thunk it? Clark over Mature? :wtf: I guess the dodge REALLY makes you THAT good (also judging by Daimon’s high ranking).

I kinda had a hunch that Vice was dead last… Man, she seriously DOES suck in that game. Pretty amazing how she improved by KOF '98 (ala Chris from KOF '97 to '98)

there’s a couple of things on that list that really baffle me, why on earth is terry above andy kasumi and athena for a start, he has nothing what i feel put him above any of them, why on earth is chang so high and why on earth ralf is SO low how the hell is he eclisped by kensou

Wtf chin!?

you say that like you’re suprised?

i’m guessing you dont know how stupid he is in 96? his laydown move in 96 is stupid, first and formost it’s done qcb k and not DD k which in my opinion is alot quicker to do, also the up k part was stupid, it comes out to fast in fact instantly you cannot roll behind him when he does it because it lasts for fucking ever, rolls in 96 are shitty enough as it is, making it even harder to get in on him as it is, basically aginest alot of characters you can just spam it over and over and there’s fuck all you can really do about it, also another thing was when you got it on a counter hit which i might add was very often it would do twice as much damage because it gave you an extra hit.

Not to mention his good DP with added auto guard and his super which for kof 96 comes out fast also is spamable to at the right distance when your foe is cornered, and there’s fuck all you can do to escape unless your mai choi athena

just in case you didn’t know

Actually I play him in most KOFs he’s in, and he’s part of my regular team in 95 and 96.

I know he’s really good in 95 and 96 but I didn’t think he was THAT good. I didn’t know he was the best character in the game, in the God Tier, above Iori. 96’ Iori is one of the most busted characters in the whole series, which says A LOT.

I’m not even sure it’s because of the dodge. Just good ol’ pokes and grabs that do a ton of damage.

Yeah, but Clark doesn’t have a good enough poke to counter Mature’s godly CD (not even his normally-good stand D), so I’m assuming he NEEDS the dodge to at least have a way around it.

I think that Team Brazil is one of the best teams in KoF '94, but I’m not sure. Team Mexico and Japan are really good as well.

chin is fuckin retarded in 96

saizo is top in power instinct 2

As for clark V mature, clark has far more weapons than mature, grab range grab damage, better in the air, better wake up games blah blah i could go on how retarded he is, but you probably already know, i’m actually surprised somebody thought mature was better than clark, yeah her CD is good, yeah great even but it’s ONE THING other than her cd, ask your self what else does she have? especially in relation to what clark has

In Max Mode, Clark’s SAB into Flashing Elbow by ITSELF does about 45%. That’s more than most supers.

that is true, BUT getting to max is a complete different story, because of the stupid taughnt removes like 30% of your pow bar and you can do it over and over never allowing them to pow up in a game.
but yeah clark is an animal it’s not like it’s hard to land his command grab either, and once they’re down it’s almost over it’s so diffecult to escape his bullshit when down he can do like 4 dfferent things to you on wake up if not more, he’s fucking scary

Tattoo Assassins
Truck Davis :bgrin:

Who is Sim from SF2WW that is top tier?

Is that a serious question???

yeah Clark’s damage is downright stupid in '96. SAB already does a lot, and elbow finisher does way more than it did in any KOF after that.

still not buying Chin above Iori though. Yeah the laydown move is pretty stupid (especially if it hits on counter), but characters with ground fireballs can counter it, like… Iori. Anyone else with a long-range move that touches the ground like Leona’s low B can usually reach him before he does the up kick. Yeah Chin has other shit that makes him good (DM, low hop/instant overhead jumping C) but Iori is just beyond broken in that game.

Yeah, who is Sim?

I don’t know any of the 8 characters from WW named Sim?

Dhalsim…

Off the top of my head only 5 characters can hit him with a ground projectile/wave iori, kasumi terry and mr big and geese, iori being the only with with a true projectile, there’s no way on gods green earth your going to land mr bigs or terrys wave on chin unless the chin users are stupid, kasumi yeah because it comes out faster and has more range than terrys and bigs wave ( yeah terrys hp power wave has better range than kasumis but it comes out too slow)
Also i’m forgetting chin can counter ioris projectile with U+LK which hops over

As for doing long range low pokes that kind of works but the very first couple of frames when before chin lays down he is more or less invunrable to anything especially lows, i’ve seen leonas down B and down D pass right through him tons of times, also moves like kims comet cruncher (i cant remember if that’s the correct name B,F+k) pass through chin when he’s going to lay down, yeah once he’s on the ground he is fair game, but then you have to deal with his U+K which you cannot jump into at all you cannot roll into, you can try and low poke but it’s so hard beat the u+k , then you got his other stuff, he’s a complete bastard imo better than iori, the only thing he is vurable to on the floor is grabs, but you have to get in first, the only 2 characters that from my expierence that really give chin grief is clark and goro, the only reason is they have a dodge

Sweet, thanks for clearing it up :tup:

I never heard anybody call him Sim at tourneys and stuff.

Yeah, Guile and Dhalsim are top tier on WW.

Anyone got any tiers for Martial Masters? (Not that old, but regardless)

And anyone wanna give a reason why Death Adder is tops in Golden Axe: the Duel?