There just trying to take stupid shit away. L Disruhpter and Mags tridash were stupid. Wesker high damage AND high health with abusable gun is stupid. Wolverine is just plain stupid.
People complaining about the small buffs for the weaker cast and tiny nerfs to the powerful characters UMvC3 are not enough to warrant balance. I don’t think that’s the point. There really just trying to get rid of the stupid stuff. Sure, Mag’s push-pull looks real stupid…but once the game is out, I get the feeling it won’t really stop half the cast.
Needs a bit of rewording. You will not be a good character in MVC3 unless you have bullshit. unless a character has it some way or another they will not be used, because they will get bodied by characters that DO has bullshit. There is not one B tier character or high that doesn’t have bullshit.
UMVC3 was about taking the fuck load of bullshit of some characters have and giving characters who don’t have any bullshit some so that they can compete with the characters that still do.
Captain America getting an invincible cartwheel during start up? Bullshit.
Iron Man with wayy faster startup on all his projectiles and cr.h being cancellable? Unreactable flight cancel? Bullshit.
Wesker down to 1 mil. health? Hitstun deterioration on gunshot and lower float? Combos harder to execute? Removal of SOME bullshit. (he still has stupid good teleports).
Erik gets greater cool down during disruptor? Slower tridash? Removal of SOME bullshit. (he can still body you in one well executed combo.
And they make sure that the new cast members already have bullshit.
Hawkeye having a tracking super which NEVER misses, even if they move behind him and activates in under 10 frames (I’m sure of it)? Given viable bullshit.
Nemesis with a fuck ton of super armor it blows through most DHC super attempts? Given viable bullshit.
Capcom realized that the characters that were solid in mvc3, by typical FG standards just didn’t cut it in mvc3 since they were either rendered obsolete by other cast members that could do whatever they did except they has abusable bullshit. Spiderman and Spencer come to mind as well as Tony Stark and Erik Lensheerr/Victor von Doom come to mind.
I worded it right. I thought about it, saying SOME bullshit. I just didn’t say that because we haven’t played the game yet. On paper, the buffs sound marginal and nerfs sound sublte, so everyone is already jumping to conclusions. "Mags can still ROM? Wesker still annoy? DP is still cheap tier?! " I understand those assumptions, because we’re all thinking the exact same things. But again, the game isn’t out yet. We can’t assume anything. It’s subjective as all hell. Thor could jump to A and B tier unexpectedly (probably not), but what the hell right? The game ain’t out yet, so I can technically assume anything.
Very valid point, but I still hold to that you can’t be viable unless you have bullshit. I would be happy if he was even C tier lol. It’s SO hard to combo on the female casts due to their retarded feminism hit boxs -__-
My avengers team will be Thor/Hawk/Cap occasionally swapping the Hulk in and Out for one of them… and the order is not set in stone, I get the feeling Hawkeye will be a good anchor.
I was thinking about adding Cap to my team on point because I want a fast character but I’ll wait for Ultimate because of his buffs, have Thor 2nd, and see what other Avenger I end up as my anchor. Right now, I want to run Nova/Thor/Ghost Rider in Ultimate and see how that works out.
I wouldn’t advice a team of 2 heavy characters together, if Tony is accidently killed you’re fucked, unless who you’re playing against is as free fuck.
The way I’ll run the Avengers I’ll ideally have Tony and Steve on every team when I’m playing seriously, and the third member will alternate. My main team will mostly like be Steve/Clint/Tony (pretty sure Tony still has anchor potential). Thor is a good anti-tank character I won’t lie, but extremely mobile and/or small characters shut him down. If I ever play against a Nemesis, count on the son of Odin being on my side.
I dunno about anti-tank I’ve felt that Hulk and Sent can be rough match-ups for him. I’ve find myself having to spam Mighty Strike like crazy to beat armored attacks.
You can’t autopilot and body them, you have to play smart, your command grab is your best friend in these match ups. They’re HUGE so as long as you time your MH in their approach you will catch them since their normals are slow, and MH is at most 5 frames of startup. Space your mighty spark, with a projectile assist. Also resests are easier on them since they’re huge as well. Don’t rush hulk down, let him come to you, Thor is more versatile than hulk, who needs to get in close, trying to rush him down will only get you killed. Sentinel is almost the same thing, I’m pretty sure mighty spark>spit in terms of speed. Sentinel will try to catch you with random super armor. So be ready to catch him with a MH, it’s during this time that :h: MH would be useful.
I like what I hear. I was going to run Iron Man/Doom/Thor (my three favorite Marvel characters) and even though most people aren’t too high on IM right now, at least Doom will be top tier and Thor seems formidable.
Yea right now Im running Thor(Smash)/Hulk(AA)/Dorm(Dark Hole) and having quite a bit of success with it. I had someone get pissed enough to actually snap Thor out trying to get rid of my AA assist he jumped in I cross Countered into Mighty Smash into combo… he Died…then the game it mysteriously froze… (Sips Odin’s Beer.)