Thor UMVC3 changes

Classic Fighting Games Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3
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When did combofiend say anything?

This is very true. But Thor v.s any of the vanilla B+ tiers is a severely uphill battle for him, ESPECIALLY if they also have assists backing them up. Mike’s Odinson is “meh”, didn’t really see anything interesting watching his thor, but his team sucks lol. I have better resets than him I’m sure, but at this point I don’t see any prominent Thor players. I’m sure this’ll change as the Odinson doesn’t suck anymore.

I’m pretty sure I’m the only one in my city who plays Thor. My friend, who is a HUGE fan of Thor, doesn’t even main him and goes for Wesker instead. Quite sad really…

Elaborate.

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Lol, do you guys have any videos of a Godlike Thor? Just wondering because I’ve never seen any, hehe.

Please prove me wrong, I still like playing him a lot.

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FullMetalRoss, Ebbs, and RoyalFlushTZ are the top Thor players that I can name at the top of my head.

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Well, not to inflate your ego or nothin’ but I’ve always felt that you have a pretty Godlike Thor. Part of the reason I subscribed to your youtube channel.

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Have any of them ever placed top 8 in a major?

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@LegendaryDJ: Lol, you’re not inflating my ego, I don’t think too highly of my Thor hehe, but thanks for the compliment. I think he just has so little exposure that people tend to jump on any videos they see. I’m sure that if a really good player starts playing him seriously, we could see some pretty cool things.

A lot of his dirtiness involves Mighty Punish and DHC’ing into an air grab super like She-Hulk’s if they try to jump out or starting out with an airgrab super and DHC’ing to Mighty Punish if they’re on the ground. I’m wondering if with a sufficiently fast OTG you can combo off it now.

Since changing up my lineup to Thor/She-Hulk/Iron Man I’ve been able to abuse this a lot and it works amazingly well. Thing is, I might drop She-Hulk in Ultimate if she really is as bad as people are saying. So that would leave Frank West and Spiderman with air grab supers? Am I missing anyone else?

I really love the mindfuck involved in doing this because even X-factor can’t save you, lol.

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I agree with the Mighty punish to air grab schtick, ive already been plannign that with frank west. Hopefully shopping cart will work as an assist for thor. I also ahve some easy lvl up ideas for frank with thor on point, so hopefully it all works out.

things im interested in checking : multiple mighty strike combos from reg launch (faster startup means easier comboing), st.m + assist xx mighty spark should be better now to get some assist action on the screen to start trijump madness. New extended combo options off full charge mighty smash. Seeing as it wasn’t really hard on like 80% of the cast before im sure it’ll be cake now.

Teams Im looking into
Thor, Frank West, Sent
Thor, Vergil(need combo extension assist maybe judgement cut so sad didn’t get the otg dp), Complimentary assist (sent? doom?)
Thor, Wesker, Sent or Dorm (I like dorm better for wesker, but sent better for thor, aslo dorm had better matchup against pheonix but air xfactor negates that)
Lols team Nemesis Thor Sentinel (this team ill be bad)

I think Thor Wesker Sent is probably in line for the new best thor team… Im pretty sad I can’t play Storm Thor Sentinel anymore, even with Thor Storm Sent for crazy meter hog combos between thor and Storm I don’t know if that team is much better… Its still an okay way to go I guess.

I guess im still really stuck on sentinel assist, I know some stuff like Cold Star, or Molecular shield or Somewhat doom missles can also work, but Im not sure of other stuff that can help thor (i guess ironman… but he kinda is meh to me)

Also phoenix seems like she will still fuck my thor teams so I’ll need something for that hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Oh final Thought Abegens Team probably still works super well in UMVC3 since he didnt’ need dhc glitch for damage at all… Thats a cool team no one in america plays, I might try that, Tron, Thor, She-hulk

Also ive never placed top 8 a major, but ive also never gone to one. Poor + Family makes it hard, maybe evo this year though.

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Dont think that im going to be doing any changes to my main team (thor/ammy/dormammu), although ammy got hit pretty hard so it might not be as good.

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With the new meter build from what I have seen so far a new anti phoenix strategy is to just play normally and kill her first two characters … If you do this and they don’t land 3 or 4 combos on you even after they die she will only have like 3.5-4 meters and you can now kill her without giving her a meter. As far as Thor in the Majors it seems no one takes him seriously enough to put in the effort. I am by no means the greatest Thor player but even My Thor is ages beyond Mike Ross and even J wongs… I saw J wong eat a Standard ass BnB into air mighty spark air dash up into Mighty Hurricane and he said “What was that?” almost like he didn’t even know that simple ass reset worked. (I was so dissapointed) It seems like he has a ton of new options and should be all around better. I get the game and guide tonight at Midnight and I will be in the lab with him checking old shit and trying new shit. As for team composition I have always liked Thor/Dorm and Seeing as they both got Buffed heavily I see no reason to drop either. I just really need to find that complimentary piece… I am so up in the air on the third member. Strider,Strange,Hawkeye,Nova,vergil,cap and Ghostrider all have my serious attention. I like Hulk on my current team and even though he was improved I am not sure its enough to keep this team competitive.

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Skrull compliments Thor pretty well, allowing for a otg assist (stone smite which is apparently faster now) and he’s a counter pick to phoenix. Just a thought.

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Ahh yeah thats true, I acutally like playing Super Skrull as well… Thats a good idea, I wonder who a good lock down assist would be. I suppsoe Skrull would be last but thats fine he does okay with no assists not great but okay. Hmm Good second character for that team Lockdown who can use an OTG. Guess I’ll have to see how some of the new character assists work.

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hmm…I never considered using Super Skrull with Thor. I’ll have to check out how well they work together to see if it fits my play style.

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i’m not gonna talk about how much mike ross is balls at mvc…that would be disrespectful, but i’m gonna make a prediction that his new team that he loses with is thor/hulk/nemesis.

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Sorry. Been doing other things. I just though with the emphasis on zoning and stradgy, it’d be more like mavel super heroes vs. SF you know? That’s probably the most balanced of the versus series games, and I thought Ultimate would be in the same catergory (but much faster). No touch of death stuff, or long combos, but…there still there. Huh. I’m loading up the game as I type.

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We can only really say that when more high level play comes out.

Speaking of which, the properties of hitting with mighty strike changed, can’t really explain what’s changed in the but form my limited testing, air series>:l: mighty strike>:uf:>MH is not even possible mid screen.

Also, Thor’s normals are FASTER, wow. Gonna have to relearn all my mains to some level, and learn to play Clint on top of that.

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First thing I noticed from Thor, aside from all the other cool stuff that’s been posted so far, is that his air dashes go a lot further, especially his air dash up and air dash up forward. That may be the thing you’re talking about Blade.

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Yea I noticed this also in order to do the mid screen reset you need to Adf only aduf if they tech up now it still works… I dont think his normals are faster but something is definitely going on maybe I should look in the guide…:pleased:

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New THor Tech incoming…

Im working on lots of stuff right now its pretty hype. THor can do delay S into st.l relaunch combos… also on big characters in the corner st.S xx full charge might striek H relaunch loops… Fucking godlike.

EDIT: Second launcher may pop them too high for loop : ( but you can link another full charge strike off it. Still godlike I’ll get damage numbers soon.

SO new combo on big characters (works on ghostrider) to start

Corner only cr.l, cr.h, st.S SJC rdp+H (FC) ~ rdp+h (FC), dp+m, dp+h xx thornado 729.300

More Damage cr.l, cr.h, st.s SJC rdp+h(FC) st.H xx dp+m, cr.h, s j.h xx qcf+l xx thornado 786,100

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Looking forward to seeing what you come up with… I just got all of my timing back down some things feel a bit different to me.

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Clint’s triple arrow is going on my team with Thor from here on out. Shit is good. Scatter and poison aren’t bad either, but TA is fast!

Not liking Iron Fist for an assist. blah for me. Got try more stuff out I guess.

Vergil feels pretty well round to compliment thor. Liking him.

I’m liking Nova Certerian Arts. Dive kick is growing on me.

PW is crazy lol.

Loving Strange as an assit.

Gonna eat dinner, online class, then back to the rest of the new cast. I might have to change out Iron Man. He’s very different feeling. And Dorm is staying. He’s was already a beast, but now…wow.

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I am liking the new Thor. He feels much faster mobility wise and its great that you don’t have to normal cancel either air dash down-forward or air dash down-backward to reach the ground. Has the reach of Mighty Punish always been as far as Thor’s hand actually reach out? If not then I love new distance you can MP someone. I did that to a Ghost Rider online and since I wasn’t next to him, I thought I missed until it did the full hyper.

As for Captain America, making :l: Shield Slash an OTG makes him soooo much better.