Instead of posting something in this thread, go to the above site for the National Center on Domestic and Sexual Violence, look around a bit, and learn something.
This is my last post on this topic; time to ditch this real world shit and get back to staring at my avatars boobs.
Hmmm I was born in 1980 grew up down the street from a few arcades …Seen mofoz gett beat down for tick throwing,<SF2, mofoz mobbed , stabbed, drugs being sold… Some sex jokes whoopy fucking doo… at first i felt bad for her, but seeing as this is blowing up, and no one ripped her skirt up and forcably fucked her or grabbed a titty… So what the hell are you all talking about,or even why
El Oh El that is so wrong. “Unspoken acceptance” is an interesting legal concept… so if you don’t express displeasure when someone is breaking the law than they suddenly didn’t break the law. Genius.
FYI, even if she didn’t say anything (which of course, she did), that wouldn’t change a damn thing.
Man I hate this need for each and everything to be PC AND HAPPY AND FREINDLY AND SMILES
Stuff like this that makes me never want the FGC to grow. Yeah it may not be the most popular thing to say but, I fear that as we grow, the more censored we’ll have to become until we become like gulp those other guys points to SC
I agree. Problem is, there is proof of Aris talking to Jared from twitch making blanket statements “Sexual Harassment has always been a part of the FGC” and “Don’t take it away from us, we wouldn’t insert sexual harassment into Starcraft!” and the like. He acted and spoke like he was representing the community which I’m hoping people realize, he doesn’t even represent a small % of anyone. I don’t blame the outlets as they are just taking what Aris stated as fact, I blame Aris for thinking he represents anyone but his own self. If we can separate ourselves from him, we’d be in ok shape.
That’s the advantage of this story breaking the way it is though, people like to brush the bad behavior under the carpet, but its been an ongoing problem for years.
Maybe the powers that be will feel forced to make a proactive stand and really get on folks about it, now.
There are no powers that be,the sponsors live off the fight game community and most of us are some raw ass muther fuckers, who dont give a flying shit if madcats does not give money to crosscounter or finger cramp…cuz if all the goes under we still gonna play the games for the games and dont care about touneys prize pots… or jwong chinabowl hair cutt …we just wanna meet up with other males and be savages!!!
Instead of pointing at the SC community, maybe you should be pointing to “adults”. Having a minimum expectation for behavior is hardly PC AND HAPPY AND FRIENDLY AND SMILES, it’s just a sign of maturity.
I don’t want to associate with a group that finds misogynistic behavior to be acceptable. Luckily for me, the FGC, as a whole, does not. All that’s happening now is that people who have long thought this was repulsive behavior are now speaking their minds on the subject because they want to be able to be proud of their associations.
Powers that be=say the owners of SRK. There are people with real authority and real stakes in this community, they’ve demonstrably known about the problem for a while (see: evo2010 womens tourney), but they’ve also tolerated it (I’ve always assumed because they were friends with the malefactors). This particular story doesn’t just hurt Capcom, it can hurt SRK and Evo.
Also, who’re you trying to impress with that front? Nobody on here will be impressed by you acting HARDKORE.
Not the same situation but just look at the bullying kid who got stabbed. Even if you’re the victim, sometimes you just asked for it and even the law recognizes it. Inb4 hur dur, not related at all.
Obviously Miranda is not at fault for being a woman, no one can blame her for that. The only thing I’ve been saying so far is that this could have been avoided if anyone involved in this drama had put his or her foot down, which didn’t really happen from what I’m seeing.
I also like the jabs @non americans. Keep it classy guys.
You can’t bring up something not related and then say ‘in b4 not related!’
Self-defense arguments had actually occurred to me before, can you say that’s remotely applicable? Really?
On your other point, Capcom has the most of the blame (and possibly liability) for that. They should have never hired a known lunatic like him, and barring that should have put a serious stop to it on day 2 when they ‘talked to him’.
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The bigger point here though is the huge number of people (some of whom are fairly prominent) who are excusing if not outright justifying the bad behavior.
cuz even if the site goes down and there is no evo, the true players are still gonna play,the rest playing for fortune and fame and for spare nickles givin as prize money, if it all fades away it does not matter… 99% of us aint the 1% fightin against wong for 2nd for a measly few gz,Were just playing to play… so if it all fades over a few sex jokes and it all fades away , it is what it is ,
dunno man, its also about right and wrong. The harm to the community aside, the way Aris acted, and the way people justifying his actions acted were Wrong. You don’t treat other people that way.
Hmmmm he does have a point. It may be wrong ethically(that is to say if ethics even have much of a barring) but it is America and Freedom of Speech implies that if you wanna say it, you should be able to.
Ugh, no. The 1st amendment has absolutely nothing to do with this. Nothing. At all.
Really now, why aren’t we teaching civics any longer? The frequency of this justification is just depressing. I’d love to see someone put this to the test in a courtroom… “yo judge, you’re one fat dude! This court is like stank yo!”
Civil rights don’t really apply there though, both Capcom and Twitch.tv have the right to censor anything they please. Given that it’s essentially an employment situation, the only real legal liability (to my understanding, admittedly not a lawyer) would be to Capcom for letting the harassment happen.
then we agree, just i except that the world aint fair and trying to force people to stop being the douche bags they are is unrealistic and unacceptable… i do get you all, i watch the streams and i see the chats and i wonder what age are these mofoz…13year old 16 ,that cutt school or are these college kids?..that are emp marandas left thigh that want to smell miranda crouch…
I mean i get it , but i except that it wont change…But there are guys like rockafella who can do it proper and in style… bet everyone thought he was gonna be the problem EHH problem is even he knows the time and place and aris does not… it just is what it is
the 4 girls that play fighting games are unimportant to the 99.5% males that make up the Players…deal with it or stay home ladys … im not saying its right, im saying it is the way it is…
if 3 white dudes go to the next million man march , i expected them to be prepared to be told to beat it honkey ,same if 3 black dudes hit up a clan meeting