thanks for helping. Ive actually decided to go with Nova/Modok/Dormammu.
is it common for your initial cubes to whiff on small characters during TAC combos? ive only learned the down variation so far.
You just have to adjust, I can do my same TAC combo on all sized characters.
Nova/Dok/Dorm? Odd Combo not a big fan of Doks neutral after Nova dies. I can
see some potential though for harassment with XF3/2 Dorm.
Just saw the wolverinemaster wesker might die challenge. Anyone planning on uploading a MODOK submission? I was planning on uploading a few of the teams that Ive been messing around with lately.
I don’t know a thing about it, so no, not currently. I look forward to seeing what you have though!
Promise im still gonna post this but the wolverinemaster challenge was bnb damage before supers incase anyone missed it. I just had a baby so marvel is way down the priority list most days. But, with most setups im topping out at like 750k up to 921k depending on team and starters. Obviously the upper range of that is not gonna happen often, tho and I used my old vanilla team. I really want to kill wesker meterless but it might not be possible without infinites or tacs.
Did you try the old j.H, C.H loop? You can get mad damage with that
Best of luck! I tried to find the most damaging combo I could find for a short while and the best I do does 889k with Chris/Sent. How did you get 921k? Here’s what I did for the 889k.
Starter (577k) in corner
j.H, IAD j.H, cr.H, S, j.MMHS, cr.M, S, j.MMHS, cr.M, fly, j.H, add, S, j.H, L blaster, add, j.S
Assist extension (312k)
back dash, cr.M + boulder punch, L blaster, L bomb, L cube, f.H, L bomb, f.H, IAD j.S, f.H + drones, L blaster, st.M, L bomb, L bomb, dash, f.H, S blaster
Just as a reference, the following starter does less damage (about 550k, I believe).
j.H, IAD j.H, (cr.H, float up, j.H, IAD j.H)x2, cr.H, j.H, add, cr.MH, S, j.MM, L blaster, add, j.S
I wonder if (j.H, IAD j.H, land, jump j.MH, etc) works on Sentinel…
I was going by memory earlier, highest I have seen is 929k not 921k:
Modok/Thor/Sent
Starter(597k) in corner
j.H, IAD j.H, cr.H, S, sj.MHS, cr.M, fly, j.H, add, S, sjMMHS, cr.M, fly, j.H, add, cr.M,(very slight delay) S, sj.H, L blaster, add j.S
Assist extension (332K)
back dash, cr.M+mighty spark, L blaster, f+H, L bomb, f+H, IAD j.S, f+H+drones, L blaster, dash S, (drones hit), addb, f+H, L blaster, f+H, IAD S, cr.M, L blaster
929k
I never thought of that Chris extension that you posted! With Chris swapped out for Thor, the combo does 907k with my starter and sent ender. I wonder if I can work a cube into the combo without trading too much damage. I might net a bit of damage the because S blaster does a ton of damage and might let me break into the 930-940 range.
I’ve been meaning to post a few other things like some different combo extensions with frank, dorm, dante etc that I havent seen mentioned before as well as some different bnbs but making videos was becoming more of a hassle than ever so I just kinda…didnt, lol.
Caveman: does your sent extension work with all starters and throws?
@Bill I know that the (f.H, L blaster, dash, S) part is character specific. I don’t remember how many characters it works on though. (f.H, L blaster, S) is also character specific (it doesn’t work on Arthur, for example).
I’d love to see what you came up with. I tried coming up with some improvements to the assist extension, and here’s what I came up with that’s been consistent.
Assist extension (350k) (947k with starter)
back dash, cr.M, call mighty spark, L blaster, cr.M, f.H, L bomb, f.H, IAD j.S, f.H + drones, L blaster, dash, S, jump, addb, f.H, L blaster, f.H, IAD S, cr.M, M blaster
I just added another cr.M and made the last L blaster an M blaster. Here’s something I only managed to get once on Nova.
Assist extension (382k) (979k with starter)
back dash, cr.M, call mighty spark, L blaster, cr.M, f.H, L bomb, f.H, IAD j.S, f.H + drones, L blaster, slight pause, S, TK L bomb, L bomb, back dash, f.H, L blaster, f.H, IAD S, cr.M, M blaster
I honestly don’t really know how I got that to work. I’ve tried to get the (f.H, L blaster, f.H) part to work after one L bomb at varying distances from the corner, but I can’t seem to replicate it. Here’s another idea I messed around with Drones, but it wasn’t getting me anywhere.
f.H + drones, L blaster, dash, S, TK L bomb, L blaster (1 hit), f.H, etc
On Tron, you can get a nice chunk of extra damage. I haven’t tried your starter on Tron though.
Assist extension on Tron (416k) (1,013k with starter)
back dash, cr.M, call mighty spark, L blaster, cr.M, f.H, L bomb, f.H, L blaster, f.H, IAD j.S, f.H + drones, L blaster, slight pause, S, TK L bomb, L bomb, f.H, L blaster, f.H, IAD S, cr.M, M blaster
That sent extension (f+h+drones, l blaster, dash S, drones hit, addb, f+h, l blaster, f+h, iad j.s, cr.m, l blaster) works in all those situations you listed granted the first f+h hits at the right height. If you can combo into the f+h wallbounce it work just about.
However
Its not consistent on some hitboxes because they get hit weird by blasters and mess up the extension at one point or another. Most of the normal/skinny characters seem to get hit by it but the characters on the edge of the spectrum will need to be adjusted.
@LTP
Nice! Getting close to the 1m mark and Im gonna try to get that to work on wesker for the spirit of the challenge. I have a feeling that thor/sent is the only possible team to get 1m because those assist do soo much damage.
@Caveman There is one other assist that I managed to produce a more damaging extension, but it’s not very practical or interesting.
Assist Extension with Dorm Liberation (377k) (974k with starter)
back dash, cr.M, call mighty spark, L blaster, cr.M, f.H, L bomb, f.H, IAD j.S, L bomb, f.H + Liberation(3R), L bomb, L bomb, L bomb, f.H, S blaster
Doesn’t clocket do a lot of damage? Nemesis…
I looked into it, and I couldn’t come up with anything more damaging.
Can DOK do TAC resets? Maybe long combo into babykicks then reset?
Anyone with SJ confirms can do a TAC bait reset.
New to DOK so wasn’t sure he could confirm from that high.
Pretty sure you could use LTP’s sj confirms that save the ground bounce off a TAC fake. I think you’d be high enough.
Or just be lazy and use the ground bounce anyway? You might be able to kill anyway.
He can confirm from any height, really. LTP made a great vid, but it basically comes down to stuff > j.S > ADD/ADDF > stuff (to conserve groundbounce, optional) > murder
Not quite as braindead as other characters SJ confirms (looking at you Mags) but still
I really don’t see why you’d want to TAC reset with MODOK. Unless you set up a TAC with certain assists (drones or missiles), you only get to TAC early in a combo. TAC resets aren’t very good against opponents who have assists like missiles/jam session/vajra, since they can just mash them out. If you want to reset, go for a big barrier + jamming bomb or the air grab into unblockable or some jamming bomb reset/snap setup.