The Zero MvC3 "Team" Thread

These whole thread is full of a Dante+Zero stuff, please give it a read :wink:

DukeSharp, good stuff. This definitely puts me on track. Midscreen after Rekkoha do I DHC to Stalking Flare right away or let it go for a while? When you already have buster charge and you land a M, just skip the Shippuga loop and go on with a launch right? Also, whatā€™s the midscreen relaunch with dark hole assist? I didnā€™t know about that Dorm air throw reset. Bad ass.

Sup Jon, long time. Thanks for the help. After a full screen buster, can you do anything other than lvl 3 hyper? I been doing good, btw. Iā€™m out of the military now, my wife and I live just north of NYC and sheā€™s pregnant :wink:

Edit: Fuck Dante

:m: hienkyaku into rekkoha. Has to be done very fast though and is almost impossible on reaction. If you know the buster will hit though (punishing a whiff or something) then go for it.

Oh wow, congrats on the kid man. You still do any traveling for tourneys or anything? I gotta come body you in Marvel after all those Honda beatings at Gamefrog haha.

As far as what to do off full screen buster, you can command dash > cancel into rekkoha for damage. That wonā€™t work in ultimate sadly, since no more hard knockdown on the buster, but itā€™s pretty cheesy for killing assists and shit right now though.

Nice. Thanks.

Jon, havenā€™t been traveling much. Real life been owning me for the last 6 months. And Iā€™ve been super free since AEā€™s been out lol Hondaā€™s ass nowā€¦Oh I watched you get blown up by Kayopolice on stream lol

I guess this could go here too:
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Donā€™t mind my little cousins voice.

Let the rekkoha go for a while, this way you have more time to charge dark spells because the stalking flare will push your opponent higher.

Regarding Zero my advice is to do the shippuga loop also if you have already the buster charge, you will gain more meter, do more damage and push your opponent to the corner also if you start from the opposite corner.

Dark hole relaunch: Letā€™s say you did the basic zero combo: :m:, :h:, :f::h:, :s:, JUMP, :m:, :m:, :h:, :s:, LAND. Now press at the same time two attacks (for the dash) and Dorm assist, then jump-cancel the dash and do a :h: Sentsuizan. You can do the instant air Sentsuizan ( :d::df::f::uf: :h:) but itā€™s not mandatory. Now wait until the last hit of dark hole and relaunch.
Sadly if you relaunch with the dark hole you canā€™t use the :l: Raikousen after the buster shot or your opponent will flip out after the second relaunch. Instead you should release the buster shot then use the :l: teleport to reach the ground, now dash and cancel the dash with a :s: to relaunch again.
The complete combo is:
:m:, :h:, :f::h:, :s:, JUMP, :m:, :m:, :h:, :s:, LAND, Dash + Call Assist 1, :d::df::f::uf: :h:, :s:, JUMP, :m:, :m:, Release Buster Shot, :l: teleport, Dash, :s:, :m:, :m:, :h: (cancel after second hit), :s:, LAND, Rekkoha.
615 damage, 1 meter used, 1.5 meter build, drag from a corner to the other.

Congrats for the baby!

For anyone playing Doom+Zero, the combo extension I use is like this:

  • Finish Corner Loop (4 reps) > land > s.:h: (1 hit) + Call Zero-a > F:h: > SJ Cancel> j.:s: xx ADD > j.:h: Plasma Beam xx Photon Array

UMvC3 Team "Tryouts"
obviously a lot of this is just theory

Zero / Ironman / Sentinel
This team could work right now in vanilla, but IMā€™s improved (IMO) air dash, should improve his mixup game. Zeroā€™s Buster buff could lead to improved setups with Unibeam and Drone assists.

Viper / Ironman / Zero
Due to Buster buff, Zero can theoretically be improved in the anchor spot - leaving me to play a two man game with Viper and Ironman. Iā€™ve always wanted to run Viper and Zero on the same team - this could be it.

Chris / Zero / ??
Chris has received some buffage of his own - allowing him to cancel a lot of his gun attacks, which could make him the great keepaway/painful punisher that it looks like heā€™s designed to be. Sweep Combo -> Sougenmu has a lot of potential in vanilla, hopefully it stays that way. Anchor spot could go to someone new - Iā€™m staring right at Rocket Raccoon, but also maybe Hawkeye or Nemesis.

Zero / Strider / ??
Striderā€™s low health keeps him in the middle so Zero can clear the field a bit. Sougenmu -> Oroborus could be some great lockdown - assuming Zeroā€™s assist is ready in time to take advantage. Third could be Doom - though I think Sentinel with drones could be better.

Viper / Ironman / Zero
**- **Shouldnā€™t this be Zero/ Viper/ Ironman? The way the team is ordered just seems weird to me and Zero as anchor even with his buff just seems even Weirder. I dont know, anything could happen in Ultimate.

Zero / Strider / ??
**- lol **Why are people so hype for this combination, I mean Zero is exactly like strider in almost every way possible, even better in some areas imo, So why have 2 Zeroā€™s on 1 team?..Whoa wait, 2 Zeroā€™s on 1 teamā€¦I think Iā€™m catching on now!

exactly, welcome to the clubā€¦

Because Ironman sucks as an anchor. Even with his improved air dash, he still is going to need an assist to allow time to mix up with the acceleration. While Zero fireball assist isnā€™t the ideal choice, it should do the trick with itā€™s large size.

Viper is on point because sheā€™s needs IMā€™s assist a lot more than Zero does. She needs a horizontal assist to get it - thereā€™s no argument to be had about that. Meanwhile Zero (even now) can anchor to some degree by zoning with Buster - add to it that you can special cancel it now and it opens up a ton of possibilities.

Then again - I could be wrong about it all. Iā€™ve yet to touch UMvC3. As I said, this is theory fighting.

Iā€™d also like to try a **Zero / Ryu / ?? ** team also.

I get the feeling Zero Strider ends up being really awesome. It really is like a second Zero. In some ways he does a few things better than Zero but I do think Zero is the better character overall from what Iā€™ve seen so far. Kinda sad when Zero is the high health character of your team lol.

Strider seems like heā€™ll be similar to some combo of Zero Dante, so I imagine Zero / Strider / Dante or Zero / Dante / Strider ends up being pretty boss.

Depending on how Vergil goes, I think he would be a great pair especially if he has the right assists.

Skrull/dog/sent is my main and will be in UMVC3. I started learning zero before evo for fun and really like him for my secondary team and the same goes for strider. I donā€™t know who I want to pair with zero yet since Iā€™m still learning Iā€™m going to see how zero/ammy/akuma work for the next few weeks any tips?

Also the whole ā€œteam low healthā€ thing doesnā€™t matter cuz in mahvel everyone gets killed in 1 combo anyways.

Strange is looking real good for Zero. That trap assist looks amazing, plus heā€™s got his own Rekkoha which also means DHC synergy with both Zero and Doom.

I called it, just saying.

Dunno about Doom but yeah Zero/ Strange is looking sick. Need to see what his other 2 assists are though!

I havenā€™t really seen anything from Strange that would be a good assist for Zero really. I guess the ring multi lock trap thing would be nice like a faster hidden missiles, but itā€™s not the kind of assist Zero needs. But I also havenā€™t seen all his assists so whatev

Nemesis rocket assist seems useless for Zero :*(

Also Doctor Strange is totally mine and none of you can have him.