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Enjoy playing my team. Welcome to the brotherhood of superior Zero teams.
Doom + Vergil team super is pretty awesome. Functions the same as Doom + Ammy.
Iām thinking about making another Zero combo video for my teamā¦
not really, you can actually hit Vergil with something like a proyectile, so you canāt use it in the exact same way. Also the duration is much shorter than ammyās so that equals less mixups. It is still good, just not as good as doom + ammy thc,
He didnāt say it was as good, just serves a similar purpose. Not that I agree.
Hmmā¦ A fellow hipster zero. :0 lol
Team Super XFC JUMP AROUND.
Sorry if this has been asked a million times before (it probably has), but what zero assist are yāall running with zero-dante teams? Iāve given up doom due to being completely unable to use ammy or strider and Iām going back to my vanilla zero team with dante. I know the uppercut used to facilitate acid rain loops, but I canāt seem to get them working in ultimate.
I just use Ryuenjin, because itās actually not half bad as a Shoryu assist. I rarely use it though.
I gotta admit, I love using it for Reset set-ups. Theyāre predictable, but some times you can get really dumb with it. (j.:l: into full combo, Throw, yadayadaā¦)
So far my favorite thing to use it for is DHCās. If I donāt think Iām going to be able to LL, I burn another bar to DHC and then boom. Still get the damage you wanted, and now you have Zero w/Shadow Ryuenjin.
Iām new to umvc and I wanted to make a team around Zero.
Iāve been using Zero/Doom (beam)/Strider (Vajra), which seems like a pretty popular and solid team, but I really would rather use something like
Zero/Doom(beam)/ammy (cold star). What makes one team better and if they are not all that far apart, should I just use the team I prefer?
And to my last question: what do you all think about Zero/Doom(hm/beam)/Trish (hopscotch)?? Iām really interested in trying this team but I am too new to really figure out how strong or weak it is in comparison to the aforementioned teams.
Man iām so hurt that you ranked my team last especially since our matches usually go in my favor :). i get that you ranked these in a general sense but z/s/sent is definitely not the best out of this group. mainly because sentinel is pretty useless in a lot of fights against another zero all they have to do is listen for the assist call and he gets bustered for free. z/s/hawk is probably the best IMO i loathe anchor hawk but heās better than doom and sent both characters get tons of mileage out of his assist and he stays relatively safe. vajra is highly underrated for spencer but thats another story for another thread
Iāve got plenty of knowledge on all 3.
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Zero/Doom/Strider works in a ton of ways, but you REALLY have to practice Strider and Doom, Strider is weak, but can get easy to block if you donāt know how to fake people out, and Doom is more than just foot dives (normally). Doom Beam is by far the MOST friendly assist, and easy to confirm off of at almost any point because of how long it lasts. Both Zero and Doom get Combo extensionās off of Vajra, and if not used for the Combo, the Assist keeps Zero and Doom on top of what they dominate the most in this game: The Air. Strider scares people from Jumping up and pressing a button, leaving you 3 scenarios at all times: 1.They jump press a button and get knocked down, leading to a full combo for both Zero and Doom. 2.They Jump, Block, and you can sJ up to them and Grab off it, Also leading to a full combo. 3. You Make them try to approach from the ground more, making Zero AND Doomās Left/Right and High/Low Cross up game a Lot better. Itās good, but youāve got to learn more with Strider than XF3 Ouroboros and M Teleport.
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Zero/Doom/Ammy is Good too, but for different reasons. If youāve ever seen MarlinPie or Clockw0rk play, then you already know that Doom/Ammy is a really Good combination. Sometimes it takes as much as a Full Screen Team Super, XFC and Jump in for a Mix-Up with Doom while Ammyās Super goes crazy making it hard to see where youāre coming from. Zero gets help from Doom (same as above), and Ammyās Help to Zero comes in the same combo extending form, but instead of Air Control, you now have Corner control. Zero has a pretty good Fuzzy Guard for people who can keep characters in the corner, just by hitting low, j.:l:, and on hit :l: Teleport to immediately hit low again. She gives Zero reset potential too, a good guess on which way they roll (forward, back, or neither) and an assist call, and youāre back in control.
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The best Local Zero player here uses this team, but uses Zero/Trish(Volt)/Doom(Missiles) and has created amazing synergy from them. thereās even another player named The Artisan whoās picked up this team too. Primarily, Trish is your new Beam, being a quicker and shorter version, and Missiles serves both of them as perfect combo extenders. Keeping missiles in play Helps Zero Land a full combo of a single missiles landing, with a great DHC into Round Harvest that leads to itās own combo entirely. Same goes for Trish, but instead of on Hit, she prefers the Missiles blocked, and Focusās on Square Jumps (SJ to Dash Forward Almost immediately after leaving the ground, creates a dash thatās a lot more sudden and lower to the ground for a High/Low Mix-up) and a Mix up cr.:l:, cr.
, and j.:s: for High/Lows. And while Doom as an Anchor is not the best, learning his bad match-ups and having patience will make it a lot more bearable, and with enough practice, Doom shouldnāt ever need to come out.
, and j.:s: for High/Lows. And while Doom as an Anchor is not the best, learning his bad match-ups and having patience will make it a lot more bearable, and with enough practice, Doom shouldnāt ever need to come out.Hope ANYTHING I said helps. Iām always open for questions.
Youāve only been winning more because of Strider. I win a lot more often when you donāt play Strider anchor. And I wouldnāt call 10 to 8 in your favor by too muchā¦fuck strider /salt
Anyway, Zero/Spencer/Sent is dabes assist for both characters played together imo because of the mixups Spencer and Zero get from it. It maximizes the potential of both Spencer and Zero to their max, but isnāt the best assist + anchor combination for the team. Thatās Hawkeye. Drones are fine in the Zero matchup. If I play it right, I should be able to call him whenever I want. (Bionic arm, or counter your buster with my own.
Rated Z/S/Strider so low because Spencer has to spend his wallbounce early to combo off of the assist. REALLY cripples his damage. He cannot get his usual ToD off of it, I doubt he can even kill Zero without a DHC off of the assist. Zero canāt combo easily off of Strider assist at midscreen either, although Strider anchor is very good. Again, fuck Strider. Only character I hate more is Vergil.
BTW I found some more really good Zero/Spencer/xxx combinations
Zero/Spencer/Ammy - A VERY strong anchor, a great lockdown assist. Mist shenanigans with Spencer are really good, and they both benefit strongly from cold star. Loses VERY badly to keep away teams though, do not play this against anything with Hidden Missiles.
Zero/Spencer/Dante - This one is more designed around Zero. Jam session helps Zero a ton, yada yada you get the point. Jam isnāt as good for Spencer though, but itās still a strong team.
Iām mot feeling zero may cry. It looses bad to runaway. Iām gonna try Zero with a mix of Vergil, Akuma, Doom, strider and some random low tier lol.
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I hate ZMC personally. Put 2 best assists for Zero on a team? The team is bad once Zero dies. If you play a Sparda brother with Zero, play a character with a beam assist or arrow assist.
yeah i like your z/s/xxxx logicā¦i mostly use strider to round out my team but there are some situations where i put strider on the bench if i know they are comingā¦like against wolverine teams iāll usually go with akuma to slow his rush. Strider does absolutely nothing in that fight. Ammy is a good choice iāve been messing with her for awhile on and off. Dark strider is just too much. i just really hate sentinel i guess and i think heās worthless it mostly comes down to you better win the fight with zero and spencer and hope you donāt have to use that guy.
Z/Sā¦Hawk(task),Doom, Dante, Vergil, Strider, Ammy, Frank, Strange, Starks, Felicia are all pretty good choices. Ironman would be the best partner for these guys if he wasnāt so ass
I hate ZMC too.
ZMC, ZDV, ZVD, whatever you wanna call itā¦ itās getting old, fast. Iām trying to make my new team work, hopefully I can make it an all around better built team than they are.
Zero/Nova b/Task.
I just find Vergil and Dante/Vergil so boring.
you guys are hurting my feelings