I know that Akuma killing Bison with a Raging Demon should’ve been the canon ending of SF2.
Actually that’s sort of the problem with Akuma. Dude has the Killing Fist and all he did was hit a cancer patient with the eutanasia hook up. Akuma sucks ass because he isn’t murdering anybody.
If Shadows Fall Akuma had gone around laying a legitimate smackdown on bitches with no remores, none of us would be complaining. Necalli tries to do something, Akuma just chops him in the neck and tells him to STFU, and Akuma becomes godlike.
So in conclusion: Akuma should just murder bison so we can all be happy.
Shadaloo should be done for a game or two.
Bison should work/struggle from the shadows with devious cunning and perfect new techniques to get back on top and enact his grandiose Kill Bill style vengeance in SF7/8.
Akuma should try to become greater and greater but fail all the same and become Oni, and meet Ryu in SF6/7 for the final fight. Also Father-son thing, just get it done with.
And that’s why Akuma should kill bison. Raging Demon his ass, become corrupted by Psycho Power, turn into some Oni silliness that you guys can jerk off to instead of hitting up training mode like proper SRKers.
Akuma needs to take his Lion King looking ass, fall off of pride rock and get eaten by hyenas already. I’m tired of him circling the drain and giving his Blueberry infused DBZ power up any relevance is not where I want to see things go.
Do people really use training mode in SFV beyond killing time during matchmaking? Wtf are you even practicing, the same 3f links you’ve had for over 3 years?
For the Akuma debate, I’ll just add that I think characters like Akuma should be utilised sparingly. Instead they used him up all throughout Alpha and SF4 meaning that everytime we saw him, it retreaded alot of old ground, so I hope that SF6 gives him closure.
We could’ve gone the rest of our lives without knowing that.
Agreed. Akuma, Sagat and Nash stories took the worst route possible in SFV. That’s when my interest in the series’ plot started to wane. I loved the cliffhanger stories and possible amazing routes for them that SFA3 gave us and SFIV made believe CAPCOM can pull it off, but SFV disappointed beyond expectation.
Akuma is a bastard evil secret master that you never seen, more like a “unfinished business” in Ryu’s life that at some point will be settled rather than the be the big nemesis of it
He should not represent ultimate Power, he should represent ultimate DANGER
A Boss (Bison, Gill etc) should be “ultimate power”, like the big elephant that overpower his opponents overwhelming them… on other hand, Akuma should have been the tiger that can jump on his head from a tree and represent a deadly danger to the Boss despite not having same size/strenght/power (wich is what i liked of CvS1 animation, unlike SF2 he sneak backstab Bison diving on him from a blind spot)
Not able to win a face to face contest of raw firepower with Bison/Gill (who should be the ones actually doing island-destruction feats) but a great danger even to them due his assassination/war approach to fighting
It will have made him interessing, different, make his existence compatible with actual Bosses.
It will have offered also an interessing martial arts philosophy angle, with him considering “fair fight” a fantasy concept and perfectly normal to sneak kill “outside a fight” a powerful opponent he will not otherwise defeat because for him there is only one gigantic fight that starts when you born and end when you die, and if you low your guard for a second during that period your fault
Warrior A want warrior B dead, the warrior alive at the end is better
That’s the only code
This will have made him a not cumbersome presence, and actually cool addition
Only problem for all of this is capcom having absolute love for theyr dear mighty japanese devil warrior and never missing a chance to blowjob him to remember everybody he’s the best most powerful villain
One thing i liked of SFEX is how they handled the Bison-Garuda-Akuma clashes
Ironically good part of Necalli’s concept came from Garuda, but while in EX he make Akuma hide and run for his life, in same scenario Necalli is used to be absolutely wrecked lol
@YagamiFire
LOL read last lines of the post above i was writing this when you posted
To me, Akuma represents what would happen if an incredibly insecure person gained power. He’s a coward, commiting fratricide and being a general shithead for the mere sake of getting Ryu to “realise” himself and being “powerful” when in reality true power is how you use your skills to better yourself and others. It’d be a good conclusion to his story if he finally admitted his BS when dying/disappearing/whatever.
I agree but also disagree with you. With Nash, he was there to give Guile closure on his revenge arc with Guile seeing him one more time and Nash trying to kill Bison, granted they could’ve done it better but it was alright.
With Sagat, we don’t have a 2nd story so we can’t say but him having a form of SnH makes him finally emphasise and realise what Ryu was going through during their clashes and that’s the first step to him finally reconciling with Ryu and himself.
Magma Dragoon in X4 was a better Akuma storyline than Akuma in the mainline games. The guy committed an atrocity to get the protags to fight him, literally Akuma in an nutshell.
The key i think it was being Gouken’s younger brother (we seen this also on Urien)
Both were Ansatsuken students, anime want that who-will-be-the-successor situation ever ending badly lol
Gouken was older, bigger/stronger, more experienced, exceptionally skilled too
Goutetsu was old, soon likely he will have designated a successor and the answer was easy to guess
I like to think a not-SnH Akuma will have never surpassed Gouken, or at least he doubted to have chances at it (insecure, as you said) and doubt mixed with anger did the rest
Embrace SnH was probably first thing where Akuma feel he finally “surpassed” his brother at something, too coward to do what it takes for power… except Gouken did’nt refused that due weakness, but Akuma was (and still is) too fool to understand it
Tbh i think it was already like that in SF4 (so just after SF2)
There was no more a shadaking, questioned himself, realized foolishness of live for anger, already done first step in the path to become a good guy
Both versions of rival fight with Ryu intro with looked friendly (in a Sagat way lol) too, or at least mutual respect without any anger involved… in fact straight say “i meet an old friend”
In fact when the spiritual entity Kage visit him (probably hoping to use him to attack Ryu) before disguised* as an “Evil Sagat” then as an “Evil Ryu” he’s already spiritually strong enough to reject Kage… SF2 Sagat will have been quickly corrupted
Akuma was terrible, but why Sagat and Nash?
Sagat was good, just not meaningful to SFV events, but build him in his “new Sagat” character.
If we get more story with SSFV, he will likely have his big fight with Ryu, but whoever win i guess not much will change, aside theyr friendship and positive rivalry to solidify and mutual respect increase even more
Nash got great story until Capcom decided the kamikaze explosion will have not destroyed Bison, and not even given it any visible importance
That really stolen from the previous 90% of good things, but at least it existed i guess.
I was’nt happy with things above either, but will hardly call it worst route possible… more like “good ideas but they fucked up”
*speaking of Kage disguise as fighters we know i’m thinking i got one thing wrong
was Kage/SnH causing Sagat allucinations in the form of random monster to make Sagat kill the girl
Now i’m thinking that’s not a random monster, but that IS “Kage/SnH” true look when he’s not using somebody else (Ryu in SFV) appearance as his “shadow”(of) name imply
Basically what SnH will show himself without use any human as reference
Red eyes, “horns”, huge lower jaw fangs, blue skin
Oni got all these traits (horns not developed but growing) and he’s the (what if) human that mostly gone close to incarnate SnH
Kage share lot of these traits too, and he get blue skin as both ultimate standard color and as Battle alt
What closure? They didn’t even interact, didn’t speak, literally just fought once then exchanged a look before the Shadaloo Base mission. That’s it. Capcom fucked up on one of the most important sideplots in the entire series
Everything that needed to be said between these silent macho military types was said when Guile gave Nash back his necklace. Guile held on to that for years, wore it even, and never gave up on Nash. Nash realizes this the instant Guile gives it to him, because who the fuck carries a necklace of a dead person with him for years if there wasn’t real love there.
You also have Guile’s maybe-canonical SF5 arcade ending where they finally share an embrace and Nash dies in Guile’s arms.
There was also the scene of Guile grabbing Nash’s hand mid-air, saving him from Necalli… like to show them again as soldiers in mission together
Then soon after them team-working to stop Abel
But reality is they could have done more to show Nash-related stuff instead waste times on shit like Karin doing Karin stuff and her “epic” rivalry with the megaphone doll lol
Another part they could have give some space was Abel-Nash, another hinted thing but not developed in any way… wich i doubt will be unless Abel is last moment jumping in SFV
I doubt that was canon, but if was, then ASF was the place for it
