The Ultra Inevitable Street Fighter V Story Thread

Rose, Elena and Oro were stuff i wanted

I will have prefered a classic martial artist (Fei or Abel… possibly both) over Rolento, but i ever liked Rolento too and i’m curious to see if they heavy redesign him.
Will be awesome if they hype him up to be legit Cody nemesis on Belger level, ever been underrated concept
Plus a tricky char like him surely will get fun vskill/vtriggers

Suck Viper eating a male slot, and even as female i will have prefered Makoto

If goes like that overall positive season that add more variety, considering all characters i consider a must are already in

I honestly don’t care who’s in. I wanted Rose from the beginning so that’d be a welcome addition. I’m just glad I’ll have more win quotes to write up again. I thought it was over with Seth.

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Well, i guess final arc will involve Rose tell us the truth about G, so tarots may play a role

As character concept Elena offer more to SFV cast, so let them salt the world with tears lol

Not if you take 10 years to do it. Which you can do if you pick an art style that doesn’t age.

Was his S4 leak accurate?

The only real disappointment there is getting Rolento again instead of Sodom.

That’s twice now you’ve said “offers more” and I don’t know what that means.

In terms of visual variety, as archetype of design and concept

Elena first Kenyan fighter, and the second from the whole african continent
Makoto will be like the last of a long line of japanese characters (and of jap young girls too)

Elena will be first and only Capoeira rep
Makoto will be another “karate fighter” if we want count the shoto ansatsuken crowd as karatekas

Elena character imagery goes on a capcom stylization of african tribal character
Makoto bring her karate gi

As much as surface level all of this is, it’s clear as the sun to me wich of the two girls “offer more” to SFV cast in terms of build the colourful “fighters from all corners of the world fight each other” imagery SF traditionally have

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DLC is DLC it is part of modern gaming, it is essential for expansion it’s not corporate greed. The only issue when it is already in just a month of the released date. Not the case of SFV nor SF4.

For a guy like you that is mostly into SF because of SF4 era and start appreciating fighting games during soul calibur 3.

That is requesting tons of apprentice skinny boys, even we had tons of new generation characters already. You won’t understand why Haggar is valuable even some of the final fight characters.

Final Fight had a huge impact when it was on SFZero. Especially those that were in that era.

By the way Lucia and any Final Fight character is more iconic than most of your preference to be in SF. Those were even scrap characters that wasn’t even part of the universe.

Most your request are into a desperate attempt to add an italian in SF because of your nationality.

Your preference is like

Volcano Rosso?

DD from fighting all stars?

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and Death?

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lol you call this variety and very Street Fighter than Final Fight?

something he prefers and campaign

and this

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while his favorite of Ryu is totally out of character

because it’s like those anime he watches when he was young

haha

oh wait you is that the variety? haha

Is this the joke probably you need more skinny guys to make SF variety.

I don’t mind cestus, the guy is tries to sound like his 30s but his just twenties, he probably wasn’t even been alive when marvel crossover did start. that’s why he belittles FF. lol

He even said that Jin Saotome debut is MVC2 lol. It wasn’t that to technical an confusing to mistake Jin Saotome debut.

That’s why you don’t see him in mahvel threads and belittle Final Fight but like more scrapped characters from external sources.

Lol his looking down to Haggar haha

cestus logic is clown, like saying Lucia should not have a fire like attack because his Final Fight cover show it. pretty dumb argument because his desperate to dislike the character and want more skinny teen boys.

He even want Ryu to dress to be like a teen and becoming an apprentice. lol

most of his character look of liking is more like mid 2000 era probably his teens.

His just an “pseudo intellectual” that echoes and repeat terminologies that he hears from me and others then used it against the argument to those that has no understanding in-depth in actual application. Like Kage was a copy pasted animation of SF4 Dan and proving it by posting a skin mod of Dan in SFV. lol

He doesn’t even call Sakura as an SF iconic cast but want tons of new skinny boys apprentice as replacement espcially if they are italian. he hates skinny girls that are already in the introduce. Take a look a his character choices.

that’s why his mostly think like that. he mocks and hate the request of other people wanting female characters back in the SFV character thread call them out because he wants new male ones lol. ironic

Me, I talk about Kage being merge to Necalli in the future to optimize fans request of wanting tons of variation and version of edge lord character that has the similar gameplan. to avoid redundancy but to kept the appeal to the target audience. And it is not to introduce new versions and to avoid making Ryu obsolete in future games because of Evil Ryu continue to exist. It’s better work around than introducing more version of shoto edgelord characters since it’s already a staple in every fighting game that had been a part of the 90s era.

Kage is a genius of Capcom for making it a better replacement than any attempts of edge lords version that were failure like Necali, Oni and various version of Evil Ryu in the past that ended either overpowered, another clone in terms of gameplay or didn’t appeal to it’s target audience like Necali, Necali being lackluster to Evil Ryu fans but Kage succeed on. Plus seperating it to Ryu makes Ryu a better character both in narrative and gameplay. Capcom is a Genius for inventing Kage to solve all problems. I’m against multiple version of this archetype so Im not requesting them but optimizing them or retiring instead. Same as the other clones. in other words I want to make the best of them in what is established because they are already in the part of SF, The best of tons of Evil Ryu and including Oni is no other than Kage because it separate itself to Ryu.

And also I wrote tons of narration to how to retire some cast properly like the Dolls in shadaloo saga and neo shadaloo even those new characters like RUFUS that weren’t successful to win the hearts of FGC. because my character request is to work around what is established and accept everything that is part of the whole design from game, visual and everything. I don’t even push my own nationality here as a character or my interest in cyberpunk genre unlike this guy.

Even my character request for new characters is mostly about returning masters not apprentices in the history of the character thread. Along with more aged female, That is true diversity because we only had few of those archetype. Most of my new character request is are background characters unlike him that are just from the concept arts of a cancelled game.

Even if I would introduce a new franchise to cross SF it would be SLAMMASTER which I talked mostly in the past than those scrapped characters.

then he calls lucia.

@Magegg His character request and what he campaign the most reflect his. Not what he is saying. What made Death and DD sense of very SF.

Since SF is not already a martial arts tournament of the best of the best in the world, since ALPHA was intruduce. It’s a world of Ansatsuken Practioners, Shadaloo Organization and Secret Society not those scrapped characters that he likes believe it SFers than any Final Fight characters lol.

His campaigning for Oro and Rose because of him befriending the dummy account of the fake leaker on twitter.

For a guy like him that wants sagat to play differently and loss his tiger uppercut doen’t know the iconic part why Sagat is remembered and being threatening and only sees that because of his backstory because of staying here in the thread for a short time so he just see sagat as a story character.

So for a guy who talks like this, it’s just sound bites or make believe.

A joke.


@Magegg Take a look of this

I do like Elena too, both Elena and Makoto are unique and both are also flexible characters but the argument is judgement is a joke

lol for a guy that sees shoto in SF to be just like real life so Makoto isn’t unique contribution for him in SFV because we had tons of shotos or karate fighters.

From a guys that also saying that FF characters didn’t had much to offer for SF.

And also from the same guy that said fire kick attack for Lucia is wrong and it doesn’t made sense because it just in the cover.


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This the same guy…?

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That was the recent talks of an FB group but a guy said he was just talking about the tarot so he mentioned those.

I very much doubt that.

Modern gaming IS corporate greed.
DLC could be a positive thing, but it is very rarely the case.
In the case of Street Fighter: 1/3 of the price of a full game for 6 characters, I don’t know how to call that other than greed.

The same realism would also imply that Capcom won’t go for a good art style because they want to sell their DLC costume. It also implies that they won’t ever make a game with the full cast.
Screw realism if it means we are to accept that Capcom just milks the franchise without even trying to make a good game (as they are doing since SF IV).

We have the right to a full game at launch, with at least 30 characters, and a story.

The reason im pissed off if its really Oro and Rolento is because such badass characters need to be at the start of a game cycle on the base roster as opposed some bullshit near the end of its life. They should have saved them for SF6 or brought them much earlier.

Same thing happened to Rolento and Elena in SF4. Wtf capcom?

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Other YT was into talking of Dan being obligatory in SFV because of being a handicap character.

I really like what James Chen wants, because we had almost the same preference, those were the characters that I have been wish for since season one, too bad they very unlikely especially now.

We’re like to get two suspected leak character, a character that had a model already, a neo shadaloo, another SF3 character then a new character.

why were getting a suspected leak character? because of being requested out of hype from fake leaks not because people really like the character.

what seperate us was Sean, yet Viper is also part of my early wishlist too but more of the least characters that I want. Since I liked Haggar, Sodom, Maki, Eagle, Lee then a pair character as my S1 request.

It is if that was as or within a month of the released. It’s okay if it was something like after 3 months, It’s more of an expansion based on request and feedback.

Cheaper than the competition. With an option, albeit a grindy one, to earn characters without spending money. An option that I’m sure we won’t have in the future due to people complaining about it.

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I would agree in the situation of sfxtekken dlc, sfxtekken was very sketchy that time for having it in the disc plus the bunch of gems. mvci also for having dlc as early.

While in SFV the issue was because of the lack in content, but the dlc seems okay.

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It has very few to do with the release date, but gamers are morons. There could be good reasons to have a first day DLC, and it could still be greedy to have one after several years.

No option for someone who doesn’t want to pay to play online, or to be more honest, very limited option.
I wont deny that the competition is bad as well, maybe worst in some cases, the whole ‘gaming industry’ is rotten to the core, but it it is the gamers that allow it by falling again and again for the same scams. It shouldn’t be acceptable to consider that a half-finished game being released is realistic (which to be honest, it is, but a realism we should fight against), or worse, something we wish for.

Im just trying to look in a dev stand point, rathee than just spending resources to things that they assumed to people. It would be wiser first to know the feedback and meaningfull request tha just throwing multiple contents that seems good on paper but entirely not what people really wants to play with.

On this I agree, but release day 1 or release day 100 might not change anything on this aspect, in a lot of cases the DLC are planned before the game is released and are delayed for other reasons.
It’s even worse if it’s something that should have been part of the game and is released as a DLC 6 months later.
But gaming industry is the only industry I know where people pay to be testers. Normally, as a tester, you’re the one that gets paid.

The competition isn’t bad in some cases, they are worse in every case. Tekken charges people for frame data and the same people complaining about FM were defending the practice. As for the online situation, that is a console issue. That situation has gotten worse instead of better. Sony and Nintendo didn’t charge for online but now they do.

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In many times it is. But in Street Fighter’s case I think it’s not. It’s additional content, and I’m sure new characters cost a lot to develop.

We’re not here to audit how much the game development costs versus its price. Not every game costs the same (and I’m sure games take a lot of money to develop) but there’s some sort of standarized price more or less; I’d say most companies probably sell the game for a little less than the regular profit they’re expected to get, so EVERY game has granted at least one wave of DLC.

OK, going back to the Season 5 thing, I don’t entirely think that Tarot Card thing is right. I mean, it looks like Capcom didn’t actually plan to do a Season 5, and it was the result of a surprising good reception of Champion Edition/SF4.

Maybe those characters from the Tarot Cards were only fillers put there because of their popularity of because they fit the card.

Maybe for the actual game they’re interested on a different set of characters.

If the Tarots are the actual Season 5 it’s not that much of a problem anyway. My only lament is that I really wanted Sodom to have a chance. Oh, well…

I said some cases because I don’t care for other fighting games so I had no idea, no opinion.
I had a quick look and it seems you’re right, every game I had a look at is even worse than SFV on this.

But, I will take another game as an example: Zelda Beath of the Wild. I find this game fantastic, and easily worth much more than its price. The DLC are largely overpriced for this game, it’s a shame, but at least the game itself was not overpriced, quite the contrary.

SFV on the other hand only starts to feel like a full game after 4 years of DLC.

I would gladly pay the full price again for a Zelda DLC that would bring content, while I won’t pay for a SFV that I feel should have been part of the game to begin with.

I don’t care if they make those competitive players pay, they are the ones that ruined SF to begin with.

Indeed it has. But Capcom knowingly restricts the way to gain FM to something that you have to pay for. They are not entirely to blame, but they can’t pretend that you don’t have to pay for the characters.

And I’m sure they don’t. But you’re right, we’re not here to audit it.

That’s what they pretend. Maybe it’s true, maybe not. If they end up releasing the 5 tarot characters, it will be a hint that it was all a lie.

I would personally go for T Hawk, Elena, Makoto, Oro and Retsu.

That’s how ended up in this situation. Caring about things that only affect us. Frame Data has always been a free feature. SFV added it for free in AE if I recall correctly. NRS made it standard a while back. If Namco slides on this everyone will start doing it. The situation with console online play is an example of that.

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