The Ultimate Magnus Thread. The godlike stuff

I am def an advocate of rocks over missles if you’re running another otg assist.

Do they scale the damage less like the Drones v. Missles?

When the full assist hits yes, but that rarely ever happens unless you’re in the corner going for mix ups

their horizontal movement also works better for my mix up game as well as opposed to missles.
much more similar drones. and set up a free tick throw.

i wouldnt call this new tech, but its something you don’t see very often.
plink addf magblasts, into IOD L, sets up a fuzzy guard on quite a few characters.

tested this with my brothers haggar in match lol.

Yeah I’ve practiced this before and got it off at least 3 times online using MIS. Shit is nuts when you get the unblockable off with repulsor assist in the corner. They can’t do shit about it but go make a sandwich, get a beer and wait for the next match lol

are you trying to say mag blast, jump L, ADD jump l? ive been playing around with that :stuck_out_tongue:

nah the plink addf magblast > land > jump L.

oook so only one

I was wondering what attack should you whiff when you are doing tri-dashes?

@Rykendawg, why whiff when you can blockstun em? tridash L is the go to, H is good for crossing up, and S has that low hitbox that comes in handy every now and then.


on another note -

A lot of people in our mvc community in GA think Dormammu is a better character than Mags,
I just don’t see it. I think Dorm is a very strong character but I think Mags is just better (bias aside), I feel he doesn’t really have any bad matchups where he outright loses. Dorm on the other hand has quite a few issues, I feel he gets outzoned by the other zone heavy characters, and he can get rushed down without too much problem by 50/50 characters.

I admit I don’t have too much experience myself playing against Dormammu, but what are ya’lls thoughts?

I was talking about for movement. I’m trying to get my tridash speed faster, I know most character with 8 way air dashes whiff some normal for speed. I don’t know which one it is for magneto or does he not do it.

ah, I would go with L or magblast depending on height.

I wave dash or whiff H at regular jump height while tridashing for movement. I think wave dashing is faster though with mags.

yeah I just plink dash. its way faster than tridashing for him.

Ok Thx.

Also speaking on an unbiased standpoint, I agree with you on this notion about Magneto having an overall better match up numbers than Dormammu. I’ve fought some competent Dorm’s before like Limbo and I can say that (even though I was still new to this game then when I did fight him) Dormammu is like Sentinel with better zoning tools and a wicked teleport, but that’s it and I don’t think there would be much to change about that.

Ninja:
I mean still speaking from an unbiased view Dormammu doesn’t need an assist to get in, but he needs one for each of his more complicated setups. Like when he needs to charge Creator & Destructor is a good example (for now, but we will see how the metagame turns out when given time) of one of the many setups he has against people.

Of course, we won’t know for sure how things turn out with each character in general until some time has passed to show what’s what in this relatively new metagame of UMvC3.

Well when I first started Ultimate I went through identity crisis and couldn’t settle on a point character so I ended up trying like 9 different point characters, and Dorm was the one I stuck with the longest until I picked up Morrigan. Anyways I think there are three (wrong) reasons a lot of people rank him so high.

  1. They overestimate his damage output. He does have the capability to hit like a freight train, but people see those 2C1D corner combos and assume he can get damage like that all the time.
  2. They heavily overestimate his self-mixups with f.H. Its really not all that great, which is why CJ doesn’t use it that often.
  3. They vastly overestimate his ability to play anchor. Even with XF3 his teleports are still easy to react to, and once again his self-mixup ability is overhyped

With that said though he still has a lot of shit going from him. That incoming mixup CJ likes to use is easily the dirtiest mixup in the game, and often leads to death. Its like a 50/50/50/50. I also feel that he actually destroys zoners.

Anyways I do feel that Magneto is the better character, especially with all this new tech thats been coming out for him recently. As you said I feel like he matches up well with most of the cast, with very few actually having an advantage over him. I truly believe Magneto is top 5 in Ultimate, but at the same time I’m not gonna argue with anybody who thinks otherwise.

Oh and what part of GA you stay at if you dont mind me asking. I live like 30min from downtown Atlanta

oh cool I stay in Statesboro, I goto Georgia Southern Uni.
Do you go to any of hte ATL gatherings like BNB or Revival?

Dorm gets 800k+ from anywhere on the screen with one meter and no assists via Dark Matter xx Mass Change jump loops, it’s just sorta hard to hitconfirm into. I think Dorm is very slightly weaker than Mags since he can get mauled easier and is more focused on momentum than Mags. He’s one of those characters where he would really be better on 2nd or anchor but his assists are just so ass. I think Dorm/Dante/Magneto and Dorm/Wesker/Magneto are stronger than pretty much all Mag/Sent compositions though.

I think Dorm beats Mags matchup-wise though