@bloodabeast: haha, I didn’t realize that EMP was the “empire combo.” Thanks for pointing that out.
And yeah man, just do your own thing with the video. What matters is that you’re sharing the knowledge and tech to other Magneto players out there. So it’s all good.
Thanks man , I used the same team as well but instead of Sent I used Akuma, In this game Sent is much better to use for assist since akuma got the nerf 
plus drones is actually better for Mags and Dante anyways.
No prob man, Just good to see you looking at it from the right perspective. Looking forward to seeing that vid 
i was planning on like, a full magneto tutorial vid, encopassing everything from normals, movement, combo construction, bnbs, frame data, etc.
I just need to get a goddamn capture card, since I got shit scripted out already.
What do you guys use to record + how much is the equipment?
for that crispy Anima922 HD PVR quality it will cost you about $150 USD, and for my Dazzle quality it will cost you about $50 USD.
what you buy is what you get…make yo choice nigga:tup:
yoooooo!!! a clip in the video im making has magneto using gravitation, but what you actually hear is “DOOOWWWWWWN DOWWWWNNN!!!” and then when the shit starts it has him talking going "Whatever Magneto doesn’t like he destroys!"
mad props for whoever gets the references lol
I’m using a shitty camcorder. Dat lack of funds.
Oh yeah, here’s a video
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good info there bro!
EDIT: Put the link to my blog in the OP in case anybody is interested in the mind of TheRealMagnus lol http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4949/magneticblog.png
[LEFT]reposting this from my blog[/LEFT]
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Understanding Zero and his weaknesses[/LEFT]
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[LEFT][SIZE=14px]Understanding Zero and his weaknesses[/SIZE][/LEFT]
[LEFT]Alright, so since ultimate has come out all I’ve heard about zero is a lot of whining about how good he is. While I admit he’s a top tier character, he’s still possible to deal with pretty reasonably if you understand how he works. There are two major points to understand about zero imo:[/LEFT]
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[LEFT]1) He is on a timer. It’s like fighting somebody with a haggar assist. When that buster is charged to level 3, do NOT mess with him. When he releases it, you’re free to do what you want. While I’m sure you all go “yeah, duh, that’s obvious” I don’t see it implemented in anybody’s play. If you’re fighting zero correctly, then without even seeing what zero is doing I should be able to tell if he has a buster just by watching YOU play. Any matchup with zero should be very back and forth between going in and waiting, and everybody needs to consciously look for that while fighting him. Every buster he shoots you should try to figure out how to get in, and otherwise you should play patiently while he has it.[/LEFT]
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[LEFT]I’ve heard responses like “he can use an assist to keep himself safe while he charges buster” among other things. Here’s the thing with zero:[/LEFT]
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[LEFT]2) While he has a lot of options, each time he makes a move he loses an option. If he’s using an assist to keep himself safe while charging buster, he’s not nearly as scary offensively since his only offensive capability will be solo zero. If he’s using the assists to make his mixups really good, then he’ll be that much more vulnerable when he finally lets go of his buster.[/LEFT]
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[LEFT]Another example is zero trying to catch somebody. Honestly? Zero is a pretty slow character, which is something most people don’t seem to realize. His ground and air dash in terms of mobility, so he has to rely on lightnings and teleports to actually move around quickly. How does this tie into “losing an option”… well, zero is pretty terrible at catching people unless he uses his teleports or lightnings, but if he uses them to catch you, his offensive game (which revolves around teleports and lightnings…) becomes weaker because he can no longer use an option offensively if he used it to catch up to you.[/LEFT]
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[LEFT]Everybody acts like there’s so much you have to worry about when you fight zero, all the time. While there IS a lot to keep in mind, it isn’t at all times. Let’s say he has 5 (arbitrary number) strong options from a given position. If he uses 3 to catch you (for example, an M lightning, buster cancel, some sort of teleport) he’ll only have 2 left once he reaches you. It’s not like Zero has 5 options to get in with, and once he’s in he retains all 5.[/LEFT]
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[LEFT]Those are the two biggest things people need to understand and abuse when fighting zero. There are lots of other things to keep in mind though:[/LEFT]
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[LEFT]Please learn his mixups. Zero’s mixups are far from scary compared to some of the rest of the cast because they are possible to react to. Blocking zero mixups is all about KNOWING the mixup, as opposed to having good reaction time (as in, blocking magneto mixups). Of course, incoming characters are a different story because in marvel a character incoming means you have hell to deal with and mixups for days. I understand that’s difficult. In the neutral game though if he gets you in block stun there’s no reason to get him by a teleport+assist, an H teleport crossing up, or “ambiguous crossups” with lightning+buster cancels. As for the last mixup (which is what I hear the most complaints about) it’s important to realize that ZERO is not the hitbox on the mixup, and that the lightning is DLAYED when it follows him. This means that you can wait until the last second to switch blocks if it’s a crossup, instead of switching as soon as you see the lightning animation. It isn’t a fast crossup because of the delayed hitbox, unlike an akuma+beserker slash mixup (Where akuma hits you as soon as wolvy crosses up if they’re good).[/LEFT]
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[LEFT]Buster—>L lightning is NOT safe and can be mashed out of. Most people object and say “oh, the zero player can just teleport down safely”. Well, they’re right but I’d say to that… who cares if he teleports down safely? Buster—>L teleport down isn’t a mixup, it’s not scary, and all he succeeding in doing is wasting his BEST TOOL. Now correct me if I’m wrong, but last I checked somebody wasting their best tool without even threatening you is a good thing.[/LEFT]
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[LEFT]Grab him out of his air H. It really isn’t as hard as it sounds, it just takes practice. His j.H is 3 hits with gaps in between each hit. It’s not even as risky as it sounds either as long as you’re holding back to throw, rather than forward. If you wait until you’re definitely close enough to him, it becomes sort of an option select: if you try to grab after hit A and do it too late, you’ll end up blocking hit B. If you try to grab too early, you’ll just end up blocking hit A. Learn the sweetspot timing so that you never get hit while trying to grab zero’s air H. Alternatively, you could learn to antiair this move. There are plenty of strong anti airs in this game that punish it, and your character (if the character is good) probably has a decent one. In the case that your character does NOT have a good way to beat zero’s sword:[/LEFT]
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[LEFT]You don’t have to punish him directly. People complain about a lot of things in marvel being so safe. Once again, you do not have to punish something directly, try thinking a bit less constrained. This doesn’t just go for zero and it is one of the most important things to understand in umvc3 which very few people do. What do I mean by this? Well, let’s say a wolverine is dive kicking, a zero is falling with a j.H, or a magneto is SJ tridashing with huge normals like j.H and j.S. Rather than trying to directly punish the move, you can set up an indirect punish by using the predictable trajectory to go for a mixup.[/LEFT]
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[LEFT]For example, if a wolverine is dive kicking and I’m dante, I’ll back dash out of the way and then stinger+assist to go for my own mixup. Did I punish the dive kick? No, he blocked it. Did I get a free mixup and pressure out of him dive kicking? Yes sir. When I’m wesker and I’m fighting a zero and he’s falling with H, what do I do? I don’t try to challenge it. Instead, I get out of the way and H teleport while calling my disruptor assist. Zero will have time to block, but I’ll put him in a mixup situation that he has to deal with (followed by a 50/50 command grab mixup if he blocks the teleport mixup). A lot of stuff is “safe’ in this game, but not really. Maybe you can’t actually directly hit your opponent for doing something, but more often than not you can get a very strong setup out of those safe things that people like to use so much.[/LEFT]
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[LEFT]Another thing to keep in mind is that the M teleport + Jam session mixup is punishable. If you push block zero’s normals when he’s setting it up (or just push block him in general) you have time to jump/back dash (depending on your character) out of the way of jam session, and then punish zero for his teleport. With dante I push block—> box jump backwards H.[/LEFT]
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[LEFT]Alright, I think that hits most of the important stuff on fighting Zero. There’s more to consider, but I realize this post is already kind of on the long side. Hopefully keeping this stuff in mind will help everybody learn to handle Zero a lot better ^_^[/LEFT]
Good stuff Mayho. There are some thing in there I disagree with but overall your post is spot on. Its generally only on this site only, but a lot of people hype up Zero like he has absolutely no weaknesses and it frustrates me. Nothing against them but people take Devil, Nini, and Crisis’ words as law around here and never think for themselves.
I think another think you can add on there is that Zero has a very difficult time dealing with characters with good air control. I know the Zero matchup well and I rarely lose against him with both my online and offline team (and I play some really good Zeros). Characters like Hawkeye, Taskmaster, and Morrigan can just fill the screen wit crap and theirs not much he can do. Also assists like Jam Session, Hidden Missiles, and (especially) Vajra completely wreck his options. I try to tell people on here that but usually the response I get is akin to “Nope nope Zero da best that dont work.”
Anyways to keep this post related to Magneto I think he does well in the matchup. I call it 5-5 when both are assistless. I think the match is honestly slighty in Magneto’s favor, but the reason I keep it even is because a mistake on his part is a lot worse than a mistake for Zero. Keeping away from him is not that difficult once you get fullscreen. I like to chuck Disruptors at SJ in the air to discourage him from sitting up there and raining down buster shots. IMO this is the key point of the match, getting him to realize that SJ height is not the place to be. Once you get him to commit to NJ height the match jumps to our favor nicely. s.L and S completely beat his j.H, and the amount of pressure we can put out exceeds his.
I hope Mayho’s post make it to the front page on one of the active magneto threads. I’m so fucking tired of hearing about that little fucker. IDK why niggas keep getting hit with the same Zero bullshit over and over again. This shit reminds me of vanilla Sentinel (the one character that didn’t need a nerf). As soon as I got Sentinel in the lab , I immediately knew he wasn’t the same Sentinel from MvC2 but these lame ass niggas who don’t know how to block Sentinel’s c.M, S run to Crapcom complaining about the stupidest shit ever. He’s the only character to get nerfed twice
How many majors has Zero won? The last one I remember was Seasons Beating last year.
My solution against Zero:
Run Zero.
Going to make some spreadsheets on my blog for match ups beginning with Magneto vs Zero and my reasons for why I believe Magneto-Zero is 6-4 in Mags favor.
EDIT: Updated blog with Zero’s basic attack frame data
Wow thank you guys for showing me that not all of SRK is full of theory crafting, dick riding sobs. I mean don’t get me wrong Zero is an absolute beast of a character, but its hell of annoying to try to explain to people on here that Zero has weaknesses when they think he’s this unbeatable god (despite not winning any relevant tourney in Ultimate). Glad to see my fellow Magnetos can think for themselves.
Heh more like Tron and Phoenix won that tourney.
Getting tired of people talking about how Zero is “gdlk/god like” as well. Here’s a picture showing proof;
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/6574/zeroframedata.png
noe of those negative frames matter since I’ve never played a zero that just lets Medium or crouching medium rock without canceling either to Shippuga (f+H) or st.H and then going into buster.
he has weaknesses though, i agree with that.
This is really good shit. I just picked up magnus and my roommate just picked up Zero so im doing anything i can to know how to deal with him. This is a very useful start so far Thanks to the last 3 or 4 posters, oh and Mayho.
Yeah someone posted in the stream commentary thread a few days ago that mag was the only character that not only has a decent matchup vs zero, but can straight up dominate him. I found this intriguing, wish he’d elaborated ever so slightly lol
Magneto doesn’t dominate Zero. The match up is even IMO.
Yeah I was just quoting the guy’s post. I really didn’t know enough to agree or disagree, just found it an intriguing claim. EVen if he’s wrong, I’d love to hear the logic. It was an armshouse guy.
