You gotta think of it this way. You’re already going against the norm by picking spider-man. Why make your work even harder by picking suboptimal assists.
Hi guys, new player here. I plan on going with Spidey and Dante. I’m deciding on the last character. I’ve heard Doom and Strider. Anyone else have other suggestions and what assists to use etc.?
jam session, vajra, beam or missiles
I use beam assist w/ for Doom & jam session for Dante that way I’ve got something for Spidey’s neutral game & anti-air.
I personally don’t use missles cuz its been a whole year & 8 months since I use that assist. Granted I see it as a combo extender or a slow anti-air. But against Beam assists or fast start up assist its ineffective.
Do you guys think Spiderman/Nova/Doom is more viable than Spiderman/Skrull/Doom? Who has the better synergy, in your opinion?
Nova is a solid second character because of TAC and safe DHC TAG. Skrull is a way better anchor and has better combo extender in smite. Still totally up to you.
Yeah, I think I like both characters equally as much. Nova’s tac infinite is actually easier/better than Doom’s, imo. I found that Nova strike assist causes a wall bounce and leads to a double web throw in the corner, similar to Stone Smite. Would it be worth using that over Centurian Rush just for more damage alone or is CR the much better choice?
On a side note, I started using Molecular Shield instead of Plasma beam because not only does it give skrull some nice command grab setups but it makes all of his unsafe moves (like meteor smash teleport) safe. I realize it’s Dooms worst assist but I believe it’s still a decent horizontal coverage assist because although the durability isn’t GREAT but still decent, if the rocks get shot at the top and bottom rocks usually make it through and hit the opponent, sometimes with them not even noticing it’s there. How good can Molecular Shield be for spidey? Obviously not the best, but could I definitely make it work for him?
Also: Web ball is a good assist for Skrull because it moves slow so the opponent knows to block, which then you could go for a command grab. If they don’t block, the get web balled and it’s a free hit. If they jump, you can command grab.
Tenpenchii uses the Spidey/Skrull shell with Taskmaster in the back (which acts very similarly to molecular shield, and tbh Doom is a way better anchor than Task) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2D250Gu-B8
Also, IGT uses Ghost Rider/Skrull/Doom and seems to do pretty well with it, although he uses Plasma beam. Not sure which assist I should use yet though. It requires a bit more testing.
If you’re using stone smite as your main combo extender then use plasma beam as your neutral.
Is Spiderman/Doom/Skrull really that much better than Spiderman/Skrull/Doom? I’m open to trying out new things, maybe a new order. What do you guys say are the best order for this team and the best assist to use for each character in order to pump out maximum effectiveness?
well you need a neutral assist. and the best neutral assist of those 2 characters is plasma beam. with that order you would be finishing your combo with crossup j.s m-spideythrow into the corner crawler assault dhc photon array, or m-spideythrow into the corner, thc.
you won’t have a good assist for doom but the support for spiderman is a lot better. you get kills off airthrows with TAC. safe DHC’s in to save your spider-man.
Beam and smite. What exactly are you trying to achieve by switching the order? Both orders can do TAC infinites anyway. The only trade off would probably be Spidey>Doom safe tag DHC with Doom+smite neutral vs Skrull+Doom neutral with only a semi safe DHC tag. The pros and cons of those trade offs can only be further checked on by actually using them.
Personally SuperSkrull makes one hell of an anchor when compared w/ Spideyor Doom. Tenderizor aassist is great for incoming mix ups n unblockables. Stone smite is great for combo extenders like otgs while orbital g is a combo extender that has little use outside of that. I would definately have a beam assist for the whole neutral game w/ spidey n skrull cuz it works so well w/ them. Rocks is another assist to consider cuz of the pressure it creates n mix up opportunites for tk webswings, stonesmites, meteor smash crossups, tic throws u name it.
hi guys im thinking about switching to spidey and I’m having trouble trying to find a team to back him up. I’ve been considering a couple characters and i was wondering if you guys could give me some insight to who i should use and why. thanks in advance!
characters:
Strange Skrull
Doom Wesker
Hawkeye Akuma
Nova
Spencer Dorm
I’m definitely using beam. After using it and seeing it in matches compared to doom rocks, it benefits Skrull just as well.
Still unsure of the order though. Spiderman/Doom/Skrull and Spiderman/Skrull/Doom both seem pretty alright to me, although the first order does less dhc damage I still kill the character 90% of the time. The only issue is that I’m not sure if stone smite for Doom is outright awful or at least pretty decent.
Skrull + beam >>>>> Doom + smite.
Like I said Skrull is a better anchor than Spidey or Doom when left w/ XF lv 3. In terms of DHC you can always raw tag inbetween Spidey combos to get the Max damage for that team order of Spidey/Doom/Skrull.
Spidey + (neutral + combo extender) or vice-versa
(neutral + combo extender) or vice-versa = (point + neutral)
Neutral = decent anchor
Hope that made some sense.
i understood. thanks!
Was looking at killer kai’s vid where he shows how to combo into Lightning loop after an extended spidey combo into ms in the corner.
Has anyone tried Spidey/Zero/neutral Assist? (I’m thinking strange). Seems like a legit strong team which allows you to TOD with two points anywhere on the screen. The only drawback is that you need to learn zero’s unassisted mid screen LL conversions (these do exist… right?)