Thats brightsides old team im sure he dropped it for a reason (there is cheaper shit) it seems like your trying to play something you can pick up in a week.If thats the case i say play parker frank doom assuming you accustom to playing parker xx doom frank is one of the easier characters with a good assist i say if your going to pick up dorm just run parker dorm doom(the best parker team)
I am very accustomed to Skrull though and I like him more than Dorm. Would Spidey/Skrull/Hawkeye or Spidey/Hawkeye/Skrull?
Anyone can corrctect if im wrong but parker needs dorm or doom on the team. Skrull can extend combos but running parker with hawkeye and skrull i dont see you getting much out of it. You want a strong shell that can support your point ,and while both skrull and clint bring things to the table its not strong enough to kill. You need cheap shit bottom line or other people are going to run through your team. Parker victor skrull is still probably your best bed bruv
My Spidey/Skrull bnb does enough to kill. Damage isn’t really an issue. Did you see the video I posted?
I’d be fine running Doom but the only place he works on the team is anchor, since Skrull’s stone smite can’t benefit Doom that much. I don’t mind Skrull dying early because it’s only Stone Smite. The Dorm/Doom is great and all but I don’t really like Dorm with Doom. I’d rather not have two big tridashing characters. It seems like there’s no way to make Spidey/Skrull fit on the same team without there being some sort of issue. Is there anyway I can make this work? Do I seriously need either Dorm or Doom to be efficient?
Spidey/Dorm/Doom doesn’t really work that well because you’re going to be gimping either Spidey or Dorm’s neutral/combos depending on what assist you have on Doom. Spidey needs both a strong neutral and missiles to be more efficient while Dorm is more oppressive with missiles. Black hole can’t give Spidey the strong neutral he needs if you pick missiles and it doesn’t provide a reliable damage/combo extender outside of the 1-frame DHC glitch if paired with plasma beam. If you want to run Dorm/Doom with missiles, just pick a point character with strong solo neutral like Mags, Morri or Zero.
Also, No. Your combos will not do enough damage without TACs because the damage you get will most likely start from beam hits which heavily scale combos or get to start them off stray hits, spider sting, air grabs or air to airs. That said the only problem you have with your team is a safe DHC as you can still TAC straight to Doom easily since you’re going to be using smite at the very end of your combos for the wall bounce, corner throw. If your Spidey’s low on life just let him die instead or get your opponent to corner you so you can safely DHC tag by CA/UWT xx Torch then fly over them over to the other side of the screen. If you have an issue with Doom getting anchor XF, then just DHC safe tag to get Skrull on anchor position. Both Skrull(XF) and Doom don’t need meter to get damage anyway. There are so many work arounds you can do to make your team efficient but I guess you’re just too lazy to find out yourself.
With this mentality, you shouldn’t even be using Spidey in the first place. I suggest you use some variety of team scrub, that would make any of your decisions less of a hassle.
Okay. I I just wanted to know if Spidey/Skrull/Doom had potential to be a very viable team. I was just worried that I was about to devote myself to a team that would never work. I’m sorry if I came off as lazy or something, I didn’t mean to let my frustrations seem that way. I feel annoying for asking so many Spidey questions. xD
I’m looking to learn Spider man. Right now I have decided I want Dante with jam session. What SHOULD I be doing in neutral? And are there any good players that RUN spidey Dante Shell I can look at?
@charlie88 Skinhoff runs Spider-man/Dante/Doom, there are some vids of him on youtube where he played at NLBC.
For the neutral, I personally think that you shouldn’t get in the habit of jumping and airdashing all the time because spider-man has nice movement on the ground and spider-sting is a really good anti-air, plus he has access to web throws (which lead to full combos if you manage to catch them with one) and Ultimate Web Throws. Obviously, when you have the opponent locked down it wouldn’t hurt to zip on their head.
You can almost pick anyone to work with spidey. Theres probably a ton of people that can get damage with spidey, it just depends on how much work do you want to put in. I suggest doom a lot because not only is he a great support, but he’s a great support for spidey. The damage you get with hidden missiles is almost laughable by how easy it is compared to other extensions.
I am learning spidey with my dante, I don’t want to play DOOM, Sentinal, vergil or strider. I am trying to see what are the best characters to go with for my team outside of that. I was think maybe Iron man, maybe strange, spencer.
If you’re willing to be a training mode hero, pick Iron Man. Watch Otavio, iirc, he’s got some vids of him playing against Combofiend with that team (Spi/Dan/IM).
Unibeam is the best neutral beam for Spidey, it has good lockdown for multiple overheads or empty jumps/zips, keeps opponent standing (less HSD), can afford you to play a bit scrubby with jump zip+beam approaches and is also good for Dante. Jam session does decent enough for neutral as well as a combo extension and like unibeam, it works with a lot of character choices. You can do TAC infinites to IM by just adjusting your combos with jam session or do raw tags to Dante after web throws or sting/bite first bounce. Has to be the best team without Doom, imo. The team will need a lot of training mode time for combos and more for neutral/resets etc. but your assists are decent enough to cover up for your lack of training.
No worries. I should also mention before you go down that road that Spidey has some bad to horrible matchups against a number of common top tier points. Brightside summed them up in the other thread and I agree to it except for a few. Better check it out.
Riddle me this, guys. I understand indeed why people pair Doom with Spidey. Do you know of a team comp/character where he doesn’t need him? Been on hard times and I don’t want to settle and put him on my team.
Doom and his assists works effectively with a lot of characters and he gives you plenty of options - TAC, DHC, safe/raw tags, etc. He is decent wherever you place him which is why he is the one of the best, if not the best Spidey teammate.
Spidey/Neutral<->Extender, that’s my ideal team build for Spidey. Note that the other characters should be able to decently work with each other. Wall bounce, drones and repulsor assists replace the missiles corner cross up and you can choose whatever assist you think would fit your neutral play.
Some random Spidey teams without Doom:
Mag/Dante
Dante/Iron Man
Tasky/Sent
Frank/RR
Dorm/Dante
Skrull/Sent