??? I don’t recall ever subbing Dorm for Wesker. I honestly would never run Spidey/Wesk/Doom since spiderman would be near useless on that team because he would effectively lose his TOD ability. If anything I’ve subbed in Wesker in place of spiderman and yes with that config Doom beam can help deal with a lot of matchups. Primarily sent-drone teams and superior zoning missiles teams.
Bees, you can still get a followup with thor even after using ground bounce. you just need to get the web throw M out before they hit the ground
Has anyone tried to see if Joe and Spidey have any synergy? In theory, the Shocking Pink glitch would open up so many doors for him.
Aside from the web throw infinite, I don’t think so. Joe’s not really a good anchor and on second, he’s got no good DHC from MS. He does have a semi safe DHC tag with god hand super though.
Just out of curiosity. What do you guys think about cold star assist with Spidey? Do you think the lockdown can benefit him with high-lows? Given he doesn’t have a good instant overhead to my knowledge and his mixups can seem pretty telegraphed. But can cold star help him with corner stuff and pressure?
Bees, hows it going. Are you not getting the success your after with Spider/Dant/Doom ?
How is Dante with Hidden Missiles ?
Thanks.
I ask bc Im looking to use that exact team.
Raoh, what do u think of Spid/Dant/Doom with hidden missiles and weasle shot. I dont like the crazyness of jam session. Weasle shot has good range when throwing web balls. I know u said that with Dante u dont need Doom/Hidden missiles bc Dante can extend spideys combos, but is it a bad team ?
I think it falls under the same category as Dorm’s black hole which has good lockdown and good incoming but isn’t as effective as a beam support neutral because Spidey can’t protect assists really well. I find black hole easier to extend combos from though.
I’d run Dante anchor on that team because of his lack of DHC options from MS. Since you’re going to be running weasel shot, you’re going to risk Dante taking some damage since he’s your go to neutral assist. I also don’t like Dante with missiles, but it could work.
Well, my whole objective is to play good, with a solid team. I cant compromise team composition for character preference.
I know I got Spidey in front and Doom missiles in back. Ironman is out, too much time invested for too lirrle return ((ill use him in alt team). So Someone with a beam huh…?
Imo, you can’t play as effective without drones. If you really want Spidey/Dante/Doom though, I suggest you use plasma beam instead. You won’t be using missiles much to extend combos since you can always raw tag extend with Dante. Beam also helps really well with Dante although it scales his already heavily scaled damage. Jam session assist is really hard to be in terms of utility so it’s better that you have that option.
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Good mixups and resets as well as combo extensions.
I actually like it. I have been running it now since about March. I like having Doom anchor because I still get the kills DHC wise(usually I go from crawler assault to guns) also I get crazy hard tags to dante then dhc to spidey who can pick them up with webzip otg+jam session in cases of throws and stuff. The combos I use(which hopefully I can get some footage going soon so you guys can see the synergy as well as options for DHC from Spidey to Dante with Spidey/Dante/Doom) all are meter neutral and can kill characters up to 1,150,000 easily. My biggest problem is zoning teams. Especially Morrigan. I play with a really good Morrigan player quite often and when it comes down to Morrigan vs Doom or Dante I feel that it is really hard to do anything. Same with fchamp style Dorm/Doom teams. So basically the team gets destroyed by zoning teams. Also in most instances I really don’t like having anchor Doom. He is a good anchor but I feel like he is a better mid character than anchor.(and I really don’t like using Dante as an anchor either.
Doom has pretty good ways to cover assists though. Also I feel like the Doom/Ammy DHC is pretty strong. Plus I like the wolf and she has really good instant overheads and ways to punish full screen. Weapon change combos are fun as well. I guess at this point I just want to consider Spidey/Doom/Xcharacter that is a solid anchor and can not get entirely wrecked by Morrigan. That is originally why I tried picking up Vergil, but after learning him i have decided that he is boring and uninteresting to me, also playing him makes me feel unoriginal as well.
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At this point I might make X character
Ammy
Rocket Raccoon
Cyclops?
idk
Thanks a lot Bee! Hey is yer stompingvground UFO ? I think I seen u in a recently posted video here.
Do u think its possible that some counterpicks need to be an entirely new team, as opposed to switching assist types or characters;.
From the looks of Brightsides match with Chris G, he played Spidey as optimally as I could Imagine, yet every attempt to get in was cut off entirely. I mean, dont get me wrong he blocked almost all the soulfists and was pretty much chipped out. Could it be that Spidey is simply illequipped to defeat Morrigan, given any assist ?
Nice rests and mixups. I concur about Vergil. The onlyvthing I like about him are his Devil Triggered assists, Judgement and Rapid.
Hmm, that’s weird. What’s that got to do with Spidey and cold star?
Im thinking about popping Magnus in slot 2 and alternating EMD/Missiles and HyperGrav/Plasma.
Anybody aware of Mag/Doom synergy ? Im sure its not quite as good as Mag/Sent (which im also conisering), but it cant be too bad?
I think he just forgot to write a “on the other hand” phrase. I just assumed he was making a counter argument.
Not sure what you mean about the first sentence. I sort of agree for that counterpicks might be necessary for certain teams. However, I don’t feel like necessarily changing an entire team. Partly because I feel like Spidey/Doom is the strongest pairing for Spider-Man for a very large amount of reasons in addition to it being that Doom is a really good character. Personally I feel that Spidey/Dante/Doom all have a hard time with lame teams. Maybe it might be a little better with Doom/Dante but Jam Session doesn’t help a whole lot in those scenarios anyways. Or if Doom uses Beam assist but personally I have not had a whole lot of luck with Beam in the past when I ran it before. Doom himself when backed by an assist can actually do good against zoning teams and, depending on the assist, can have a decent rushdown and mixup game.
Pretty much was saying that After Spidey dies(which can happen quite often) At least Doom has really good ability to cover cold star. Plus Doom and cold star are pretty strong. I think that is what I meant. I like to think about how the rest of the team will function after Spidey dies. Because that is also pretty important imo.
fchamp comes to mind in terms of Mag/Doom synergy. Spidey/ Mag seems good too but I am not sure how easy it is to hitconfirm off of Mag’s beam because of how fast it is.
Haha, that’s exactly where I am right now. I was running Spidey / IM / Doom but decided to drop IM because he’s just too difficult to confirm with. So now I want to run Doom second, and I considered Vergil, but… meh.