Lol the world is split on that guy ENG voice, when the first thing i do when i buy any new SC is go straight to options to set it in JAP
āAccept this from meā¦ MY LOVE!ā
Itās either cringe worthy or genius. I am gonna go with genius because that kind of over the top theatricality and eccentricity is gravely missed.
I remember thinking FANG was a terrible idea because he is so campy and flamboyant, but soon after I recognized him for what he is - a work of art.
Azwel works because of his VA IMO. Without him, heād be so forgettable after a long line of great fighting game villains.
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Nah, aside him having a style iām not fan of (i will have prefererred a weapon, with magic boost maybe but a weapon), heās definitely an extraordinary character design
On par with SC greatest past villains such as Cervantes, Nightmare or Zasalamel
Itās old school great, wich is crazy surprising considering that Groh (the other new char) just ripped from SCV Zweiās hands the title of most crap design of SC history
Positively surprised for once
Also a leaker called him correctly by name in June,so we know is legit
If nothing changed thatās the last 4 we will see
-Lizardman (ok)
-HWANG (fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck yeah about time, damn son of bitches)
-Raphael (perfect choice, perfect pick to go outside SC1 timeline, the cast NEED him)
-Cervantes (itās not SC without Cervy, itās theyr Bison)
About the perfect SC castā¦ i only miss Rock, but iām kinda sure he will be one of the first Season Pass
First SC director i trust in years and years, fuck that daishi bitch and his following of internet wierdos
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Azwelās voice goes along perfectly with his mannerisms imo. It has a certain charm to it that makes him more appealing, like Daemos said. Iām interested to see how heās portrayed in the story.
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I remember the Clown voice actor in the Spawn, itās irritating but goes well with his character representation.
Amakusa x Rasputin (World Heroes)
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Nice comparison with Rasputin with everything about love talks
I donāt understand some details of A Shadow Falls.
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Why did Shadaloo have to drop the moons? When they got the six pieces (because Karin and Chun-Li deactivated them), why did they not reactivate the moons?
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Why did Illuminati want to stop the Black Moons? I mean, the prophecy says the moons must drop so, I donāt know why they are interested in stopping M. Bison before the moons dropā¦
i donāt remember the dynamic of point 1 (wasānt Rashid the one who stopped the moons once for all?), but point 2 is that Bison will have became too powerful and a legit danger.
Illuminati already control the world as it is as puppeteers of nations, let Bison break that controlled equilibrium will mean lose control on the world
Essentially Illuminati did to Bison the same thing real world superpowers like USA/Russia usually do to some middle-east/third world nationās Dictator: interference, destabilization and indirect contrast by helping his enemies with tech/$$$/soldiers
You do this before direct war as itās the last choice, wich is the reason Gill, Urien and even the lower piece Kolin didānt got directly involved.
The closest has been send a powered up Nash, just as superpowers of our world send special operation soldiers to fight on the side of the faction theyāre supporting
Also Illuminati prefer low profile when possible, see how Kolin even as ally didānt declared to be part of it or her true name
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Ok, itās logical they must stop Bison because of the power he would get but then, the sacred prophecy is not the priority? Is it not important?
They donāt follow the prophecy at all because the moons didnāt fall on the Earth and they didnāt get those 130 days of darkness which Gill needs to fulfill that prophecyā¦
I definitely need to review so feel free to correct my mistakes, but from what I remember, I think Gill has been fasttracking things and trying to make his destiny happen now. I believe big, prophetic things were supposed to happen well after the time of his reign an heās changing the Illuminati drastically anyways (killing the old guard, escalating their activities, etc)
Also it seems that Gill plays around with how literal things must be. Kolin is devestated that Ryu was the one who killed Bison and things didnāt go as planned, but Gill rolled with it and thought that destiny may have some flexibilty. I get the vibe that he flexible with the books and prophecies so that things will suit him whether or not things go to plan as foretold.
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The prophecy is truly important for ILLUMINATI as organization/cult, for Gill himself the absolute priority is being declared the Messiah of the prophecy and start his new world.
As @Shockdingo said heās not a true 100% believer of the prophecy and he think that it can (and should) be āhelpedā and bent until it point at him as the Messiah
Essentially two scenarios on Gill are
50% believer - He kinda believe the prophecy as something that point as him as the Messiah (because is clearly itās destiny), but itās not a perfect prophecy so it must be helped as much is needed to.
In this case he believe to be the Messiah, but doesānt trust the interpretation of the prophecy and want āfixā it to reach the correct result (with himself as the Messiah)
Unbeliever - He doesānt believe the prophecy at all, but want use it to be declared the Messiah and get the power that come with it (Illuminatiās Emperor), plus the fact that he can use it to have fanatic loyality from believers (see how Kolin is driven by the prophecy)
In this case he know to NOT be the Messiah, and due this he want rewrite himself a new path of events to ādeviateā prophecy on himself
Someone commented on this on reddit today, and Iām not sure if this was discussed in here. For sure this is the first time Iāve noticed this.
Has anyone noticed that Edās stance is somewhat similar to Bisonās stance from old Street FIghter games? You know, the one where Bison is jerking off the air for some reason?
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Yeah, i noticed it as soon i seen it, the lines definitely are there 
But lead left low itās also an example of a boxing stance
They found a way to have both boxing stance and little hint at Bison
While at it i miss that stance for Bison, it was much more āfighterā and less anime tryhard (wich fit Bison btw)
In early SFV build Bison got also normal dash (wich become teleports in V-trigger), a very cool one while at it
Tbh i will have liked if standard Bison got old school stance, and normal dashes.
Then in V-trigger the tryhard pose, even more visible purple flames (than now) and teleports dashes like in the early build
It will have been as SF2tAM Bison starting āfairā fighter and then going all in with psycho power once in VT
I miss scrappy Bison
Also miss this run animation, even if canāt have place in SFV
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Azwel is fantastic
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Someone edited Gās mask to be invisible. Hmmm, looks cool.
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I want the shock reactā¦
itās like someone being mind controlled? I remember watching old 80s tokusatsu shows where posses or mind controlled individuals has dark shade underneath there eyes or having a red eye.
Itās like a different person of younger? I wonder if it still have the golden world map tattoo beneath still?
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Will be cool an alt where he doesānt have the beard, looks very different
Kinda remind me this actor playing the villain of tons of movies
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1- The Descent protocol is a failsafe to ensure the ultimate goal of the project succeeds (spreading chaos and terror in the world). That means that it would not execute unless the Black Moons cannot for any reason be activated. I have to refresh my memory on why they could not be reactivated, but Shadaloo would not initiate the descent protocol if they could reactivate them.
2- If you go over the exact words of the prophecy from Gillās 2i ending, you will see that it does not exactly match the events of ASF. In the original prophecy, there is 1 black moon that splits into 7 pieces and falls onto the people of āUltaniaā. In ASF, there are 7 Black Moons that descend onto the people of Earth. The nature of the language of prophecies is meant to be loose and metaphorical, rather than faithfully literal. Gill understood this and used it to his advantage when he learned about Bisonās Black Moons.
He did this to convince the rest of his cult that he is the Messiah, the boy who controls the elements - Even though he is a man in his late 20s.
Practically, the Illuminati could not let Bisonās plan succeed because Bison wouldāve become invincible and unstoppable. This presents a bigger issue for Gill and his own ambitions.
Technically though, the Black Moons did fall to Earth, they just didnāt crash, and to a great extent they did spread misery and chaos. Itās unfortunate that ASF did not take a moment to show us the chaos that spread the world over.
The prophecy was predicted to take place in the 23rd or 24th century. Gill is greatly expediting it by interpreting it in the 20th century. Many of the old guard in the Illuminati disagreed with him, and thatās why he and Urien assassinated them. However they canāt kill everyone in the cult, so they need to convince the lessers through symbolism and prophecy.
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@Phantom_Miria Well that wouldnāt be the only thing Ed stole from him (See CvS1 Bison Psycho Impact and SFEX Bison Psycho Cannon).
@Cestus_II I donāt miss the handjob stance. Granted the CvS sprite really perfected Bisonās body language then (he moved like an Olympian), SFV took it to the next level by having his fighting stance be a stare-down-permanent-win pose. Capcom has a philosophy where a characterās animations should tell you everything you need to know about a character just by looking at them and the way they move. I think they succeeded with flying colors for most of their SF5 animations.
I wouldāve liked to see more of those ātrue martial artistā Bison movements expressed in other things. Needs death tower kick throw from SF4 and more martial artsy command normals.
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The MasturBison was always one of the most visually cool stances in the series. I like how Capcom Vs SNK 2 took it to another level.
But SFVās Bisonās signifies superiority in a rather compelling fashion. From the way he walks, the way he techs a throw, all the way down to how his nonchalant Standing Light Punch and Medium Punch has him attacking without directly facing the opponent. You pretty much get the impression that heās the shit and heās going to win without needing to be serious.
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