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DevilJin_01 · October 18, 2016, 6:15pm

Zangief is amazing

mowr · October 18, 2016, 6:17pm

SleepyFoxx:

It would be nice if most or all v skills build a little meter just by using them without meeting the “requirements”. iirc, v meter only can build from CC normals, taking damage, and if the v skill came into contact with the opponent (ex. parry or FANG’s poison).

For example, Rashid can only build v meter from his v skills if eagle strike or nail assault (follow-up kick from the roll) actually hits. And I think he will build a slight amount if the opponent is blocking. I should be able to build meter without doing these unsafe follow-ups.
Since you can cancel Rashid’s normals into the roll and leap v skill I think it would be great to gain a slight amount of v meter from doing that as well.

Bison could benefit from whiffing his v skill to build v meter from a safe distance. Of course I seriously think he should have two like Rashid.

I don’t want everyone standing full screen whiffing V skills but many V skills definitely need looking at being buffed in general or just made easier to utilise.

Low tier V skills in no particular order:

Alex: Virtually only used in stun combos
Fang: Just utter shit
Juri: Could easily be very good if she had more ways to combo into the charged version, or if she built some meter while charging
M. Bison: Just utter shit
Nash: I rarely see this being used but at the same time fuuuuck giving Nash more V triggers
Mika: Fuck giving Mika more Nadeshikos
Ryu: Probably should just build more gauge on successful parry rather than actually being changed mechanically
Vega: Needs to be overhauled pretty much
Zangief: Way too all or nothing, can be amazing or absolutely horrible depending on matchup/reads

YoungThuggery · October 18, 2016, 6:19pm

If Vega had cancelable claw cr.MP i would be really fucking happy. That’s all I am going to say, regarding buffs.

@“deviljin 01” basically shut my shit down. While I believe those seven things to be Vega’s weaknesses DJ pretty much explained to me how to compensate for said weaknesses.

I actually think Vega has one of the more useful V-triggers in the game. Even if he doesn’t have super it is still one of the most damaging anti-airs in the game. It is also an extremely good tool for whiff punishing. It also gives him an option to anti air. I actually use the normal version as an AA and not Rojo (d+HP+HK) because Rojo cannot be followed by Bloody Rain. Vega’s V-Skill is trash. It can only evade fireballs like Urien/Ryu/Ken and that just stops your opponent from running up the chip damage. If I could V-skill sonic booms then we would be in business.

I will say this: Vega’s backwards walk speed has saved my life on multiple occasions.

ribu · October 18, 2016, 6:21pm

The only character who does afaik is Urien, but he has to do a special move after activating vskill…

Rugalitarian · October 18, 2016, 6:21pm

Zangief is a better character than Vega.

amrraed · October 18, 2016, 6:23pm

Doesn’t matter, you are more beautiful honey.

OceanMachine · October 18, 2016, 6:28pm

Claw on Vega is supposed to be an honest footsies character. Stop with your special cancellable thuggery

Pertho · October 18, 2016, 6:28pm

I’m gonna start playing Vega because I’m not convinced that character is bad.

Kecka · October 18, 2016, 6:37pm

Hey, fuck you! There’s nothing more beautiful than muscle!

I’m no expert on Vega, but does he have match-ups as bad as Gief? Because Nash is some bullshit with Gief, and Ryu’s not far behind since both characters can just throw fireballs and use their get out of corner free cards once you’ve finally chased them down. I’ve said it before, but I really think Gief is one solid approach tool away from being a good character. He just suffers so hard from having to chase everyone down without a proper approach tool in the mid-screen game, and air SPDs are kind of shit at keeping some characters in the corner when that’s your entire game plan because you’re too slow to chase them down otherwise. He really needs green hand.

itzpookiie · October 18, 2016, 6:40pm

wait what

vegas vtrigger can
whiff punish/into super
set up unblockables
get out of corner
Anti fireball
anti air forward and back jump/into super/into unblockable
it’s safe and does good damage on it’s own

How is that a bad vtrigger

Memorycard · October 18, 2016, 6:45pm

But Urien doesn’t gain v-meter solely from activating v-skill, right? He should gain a slight amount after activating it and then gain more after doing the special move imo. This would also help Alex.

itzpookiie · October 18, 2016, 6:48pm

Damn
@Rugalitarian sounds worse than @otter when it comes to downplaying
Atleast @otter sort of admitted nash was top 5 at best

Zangief a better character than Vega?

Holy shit

Akhos · October 18, 2016, 6:49pm

Ken sucks.

Buffs plz.

TWINBLADES · October 18, 2016, 6:50pm

I didn’t even see it because I stopped reading the thread last night before I saw that post. I didn’t refresh the page so I just commented.

That being said I’m glad I stole your post because now I can feel good about my life!!!

Thank you for that great post idea @OceanMachine

XD

Darklightjg1 · October 18, 2016, 6:51pm

amrraed:

@“DevilJin 01” You see what you are saying make sense on one hand and doesn’t make sense on the other.

I generally agree with your assessment on Chun and it is why i also use Mika. It is pretty much the same situation as your Ibuki, technically not as strong of a character but is easier and that makes a difference.

What doesn’t make sense to me is the overwhelming perception of being SSS tier that people put Chun-Li in while in fact very few players will get to play against real Chuns that will be able to do these things on command perfectly. Just watching Nuki vs Mago at SCR, Nuki got killed many rounds because of missing air legs or getting ones that aren’t + on block enough while leads to HIM eating a counter hit.

There is this round where he did air-legs, Mago challenged it afterwards with a jab, st.MP into tenko then super and won the round.

This all brings me to the point that the amount of people complaining about Chun hasn’t even experienced the real deal yet. I believe this also apply to Ryu in my opinion.

I would really be saddened if Capcom dropped the nerfs hardcore on them before these character could reach their true potential but we will see.

Meh. I can deal with playing a nerfed character because I technically already am.

TWINBLADES · October 18, 2016, 6:54pm

I don’t know man Flash is going bald trying to figure out how to net another 7k with Vegameister

OceanMachine · October 18, 2016, 6:56pm

Rugal is just downplaying Vega because he knows the nerf hammer is coming and fears the stance switch costing 2 EX bars, cr. MK becoming -7 on block and EX barcelona not hitting crouching or airborne opponents.

DevilJin_01 · October 18, 2016, 7:01pm

Birdie gains V Meter for whiffing. Birdie gains a bit of V Gauge just for putting the banana or can on the ground. Obviously if he eats a donut he builds as well.

The only other character that gains V Gauge for whiffing is Mika.

Chun Li used to be able to in beta 2, but they thought it was too strong and took it away.

Rugalitarian · October 18, 2016, 7:10pm

The grounded v-trigger rose travels extremely slow. It also has a 10 frame startup lol. Anti fireball? You know how many times I’ve perfectly timed a fireball punish only to have to rose completely miss the opponent while I’m in the air? It’s garbage.

Kecka · October 18, 2016, 7:13pm

Okay, so looking through the PC mods for SFV, I feel weird. Two thirds are just super creepy half-naked mods with shots of polygon asses in thongs. Like, who goes through all that trouble to see some of Juri’s cleavage? Why not just watch actual porn? There is literally a boob bouncing mod for Laura, with separate jiggle physics depending on her costume. Who the fuck decided he had to code that? Not to mention all the creepy mods for fetishes I didn’t even know existed. Shiny legs Chun, for example.