The SSF4 Dictator Request Thread

[Shoryu_Reppa]

Regular PC (NOT EX)> FADC> Ultra
That’d be interesting. Like if they just made it so PC put the enemy into an extended juggle state or some shit.

Then in the corner he could do PC> FADC> Banishing fist (from CVS)

and then he could start painting the fence <33333
ahhh wishfull thinking >_<

[SoVi3t]

i want the CvS PC.

[m16ghost]

On an interesting note, slide was safe on block during beta, and scissors kick on block put you closer to your opponent. Bold emphasis is mine.

Dictator:
Yeah, he’s way too good now. Scissor kicks or slide still can’t be punished after block. And now, not psycho crusher either - in all previous games, when Bison did the PC, he’d push the opponent back while blocking - so when he went through the character, they could turn around and hit him before he could get away. But now, the character doesn’t get pushed back, so by the time they recover from hitstun and turn around, Bison’s a safe distance away. PC seems to have more priority on startup, so now its a great anti-poke move. Also, he seems to have some deep stomps now…there were a few times were I could swear I was blocking high but took the hit anyway. He needs to be toned down a bit.

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5168928&postcount=229

Dictator is slightly nerfed… scissors kick puts him in a distance where he can’t continue to poke you. Torpedo seems more punishable. ONE MAJOR FLAW THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE FIXED: Dictator’s super (Knee Press Nightmare) - After he does his two scissors kicks, his slide will hit but PASS THROUGH the opponent when blocked. Unless he is sliding towards the corner at the end of his super, he cannot be punished because he will be too far away. Hopefully, someone will fix this because it’s pretty glaring. I mean, when people block his regular slide, he will not pass through and he can be punished easily.

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5220247&postcount=1

[SoVi3t]

man, im glad KPN slides through the opponent.

[System_1]

Alpha 3 bison boss version’s super

unblockable!

[Flashy_Nights]

there is a chance somebody low on the totem pole (or maybe even Seth) is reading these threads (SRK is pretty much the hub for North American/European SF players strategies), but I figure the japanese have already pointed out Bisons flaws

That’s why I have no worry’s.

[SoVi3t]

That’s why I have no worry’s.

there solution will be more flashing lights and more purple stuff

OOC, m16 where’d u get that info?

[laudanum09]

wow, so EX headstomp had ex armor at some point? either that or he’s just referring to the invincibility. I admit that’d be nice. It’s not the gdlk move it was made out to be upon release.

lol, wow no one updated news for today. i wonder why ;D

um, well baien went on a 51 game winning streak. and given that 80% of my matches were against him it was pretty depressing playing. bison is really strong, but baien is just a really good player. taking off the 7 game cap thing was stupid in my opinion, from a developer perspective and a player perspective.

i discovered a use for bison’s ex foot stomp. if you get cornered you can use to very effectively escape because on the way up he will absorb most any hit and after stomping on the opponent fly very quickly to the other side of the screen. bison can also cancel his scissor kicks to SA once he touches the ground though i’m not sure if this has practical use yet

[Nyoronoru]

I like how they freaked out about not being able to punish Dictator’s KPN on block, but had nothing to say about Ryu’s super being totally 100% safe on block.

[m16ghost]

there solution will be more flashing lights and more purple stuff

OOC, m16 where’d u get that info?

Azrael kept referencing the old beta Bison, so I just did a search on old SRK threads.

I like how they freaked out about not being able to punish Dictator’s KPN on block, but had nothing to say about Ryu’s super being totally 100% safe on block.

The difference is probably the fact that Bison’s super is invulnerable until it’s active, basically making it an unpunishable jesus kick. That and he wasn’t as meter dependent then.

Mindless tiger knee traps, unpunishable specials to escape, and safe slide basically sounds like Bison was free to go anywhere he damn pleased. I don’t remember exactly, but I think I even read teleport had less frames of recovery lol.

Sounds like a lot of OP love. <3

[SUPARNOVAX]

They should give him back some of that old stuff. Maybe not entirely everything, even a fraction of it would be good. I don’t think there’s anything new that nobody has said yet so let’s hope for the best in the coming months.

[Flashy_Nights]

there solution will be more flashing lights and more purple stuff

and More Purple shit ftw.

[Decestation]

Ex scissors should bounce your opponent off the wall and let bison set up for an ultra

[System_1]

hopefully Bison doesn’t become too popular in the next installment. I’d never want him to be this game’s version of ryu and see endless bison’s online and shit. I’d probably quit the character if that ever happened.

@ Decestation, yeah I think EX should combo into ultra IF your opponent is close to the corner. That would stop it from being too OP and it would sorta be like those ultra combos that are corner dependent, i.e. the one from Rufus and Ryu’s EX Tatsu into ultra.

[krazykone123]

hopefully Bison doesn’t become too popular in the next installment. I’d never want him to be this game’s version of ryu and see endless bison’s online and shit.

I doubt it, a popular turned played out charge character in Street Fighter would mean hell has frozen over imo :lol:…

[Flashy_Nights]

hopefully Bison doesn’t become too popular in the next installment. I’d never want him to be this game’s version of ryu and see endless bison’s online and shit. I’d probably quit the character if that ever happened.

I don’t think there will be any char popular enough to put a dent in the Ryu/Ken plague.

[chrisofrays]

I don’t think there will be any char popular enough to put a dent in the Ryu/Ken plague.

unless ryu and ken have a bayby called Ryuken

[Kurdminator]

I remember a interview where Seth Killian mentioned that characters will get buffs, and no one gets nerfed, not even Sagat.

So my idea to buff Bison is:

• Fast but low damage overhead normal, it can not be canceled and its possible to link into a HighKick or other normal that can not be canceled or linked. Also it should have faster recovery than the hitstun the opponent is in.

• Empty DR should be linked into Ultra (2 frames)

• Slide should be able link into ultra (2 frames)

• Faster recovery from teleport and should also be able to teleport in air to ground and not air to air like Dhalsim.

[m16ghost]

• Empty DR should be linked into Ultra (2 frames)

What do you mean link from an empty DR? It doesn’t hit, so there’s nothing to link from.

[Gutter_Trash]

better stomp homing

in SF2 characters got locked in block animation.

in SF4 characters can walk walk walk and only go into block animation on contact; making stomps easier to walk out of

give him a bit more homing even with walks