I had nightmares of Adon and Guy beating up M.Bison last night 
Adon wont be a challengeâŚGuy might beâŚi hated fighting AI Guy in Alpha
Also, I would rather PC bounce of walls than SK. SK is fine the way it is.
Weâre not getting wall bounce or crumple moves, just stop asking for it. I am almost certain.
QFT. get rid of the cr. HP bison has now and replace it with a viable anti-air with the likes of rogâs, sakuraâs or roseâs so bison can keep opponents at bay.
What the FUCK are you talking about.
Bison has one of the best standing normal anti airs in the entire game.
Iâm not even going to tell you what it is, I want you to think about it and figure it out.
If you are getting jumped in on as BISON, you simply cannot play him.
Ehhh Guy doesnât have Alpha chains or VC, and Adon doesnât have all that great a track record in terms of not sucking (Even compared to Dictator, lol).
@Parabellum: Itâs not really gdlk as an AA (Its reliability is pretty matchup and spacing specific). That said, Dictator absolutely shouldnât have a grounded AA like Boxerâs, Guileâs, etc. The most he should have is a better nj.MK and stomp tracking.
The original rumor (the one thatâs been only right so far) did mention he was keeping his chains.
Oshit, I assumed he wouldnât (Gen didnât, after all). 
I feed Bison them things.
What makes you say that? if M.Bison gets his Psycho Banish Iâm sure an ex one might get crumple powa, not to mention that would open up a new path to Ultra.
It just feels like the banish move doesnât fit too well into SF4. It was only good from CvS as a CC attack. I duno, weâll see. Iâm just very skeptical about them giving Bison those kind of properties when theyâre aiming to recreate the Super Turbo feel in the game. Bison has decent combos that shave off 18-30% hp at a time, heâs not lacking in the damage department, itâs just the small little things like frames and an Ultra to really make him more mean. I would like to see some normal move changes.
Wall bounce mechanic for any of his moves feel out of place IMO.
If that banish slap was an over head then GG.
Iâd fucking LOVE that. It doesnât even need to combo into anything. Just smack fools on the top of the head for teching all my throws and blocking low.
fuckers.
the same could be said of almost every characters moves thoughâŚ
I mean changing the existing special moves/EX moves to give those properties just donât seem justified when he has weakness in defense and recovery to some slight degree. But they already said that Deejayâs EX-dreadkick crumpling into Ultra isnât going to make it into the game for now so Iâm not really gonna hold my breath for some similar treatment to Bison. Thereâs a little bit of that already. Viiperâs EX-knuckle crumples but the startup is so long, thatâs the trade off and itâs not even remotely similar to the regular LP/MP/HP counterparts. If they had to give Bison a crumple move, there has to be a huge tradeoff for such a property like m16ghost posted a while ago. Youâre not going to have the amazingly fast EX-PC and wall bounce, or EX-Knee Press passing fireballs during invincible frames AND crumple.
I get the dumbed down CvsSNK2 feeling more then Super Turbo from Bison imo.
but like you said well see.
Yeah, not to mention Eat fire balls and build meter and what not, and in CvsSNK2 his banish fist hits as an over head, can be used as a combo ender but no knock down, that would be OP.
Please capcom please lol.
If theyâre trying to recreate ST Bison he should get ambiguous crossups and dizzy combos.
EX DR -> EX psycho Banish? would be cool.
If anything in this game should crumple on EX, it should be Psycho crusher. That much psycho power flying at you shouldnt just knock you down, it should shut you down.
only comboable if we hit with near the end of it. like viperâs EX elec punch.
j.HP is pretty ambiguous and you can safe jump with it I think.
Alas, there is no clue as to what Ono has planned for any of the characters. All we know is new specials. Does that mean old ones returning (in which case Bison could be either painting fences, 2 hit rush punching ppl cant recall the name of the move, or throwing fireballs, for all we know), or could he be getting a brand NEW move? Crazy times.
Hell, imagine if pressing kick during DR did something new.
^I donât think capcom has the balls to do that.
And HSâs and DRâs that work right.