Beginning of the page: Get creative!
Now: We expect it,because it has to be like this!
I’m not surprised, it’s normal for me to talk with walls all day long anyways.
Everything becomes easier and more accesable, I honestly think she will get something completely different as V-Trigger.
By expecting FSE as V-Trigger,you will just be extremly disappointed if it’s something different.
Not only this, but Bison and Chun have basicly FSE V-Trigger. Chun with her Normals and Bison with his Specials, why should they give Juri something similar to Chun’s,when the V-System exists to bring more VARIERTY into the game and the characters.
FSE is iconic to Juri though; character-wise, it’s her “threat factor” that makes her an intimidating villain. Juri without FSE would be like Akuma without Raging Demon; she might be a mechanically better or more unique character without it, but you’re ripping out an iconic move that just needs tweaking more than anything.
Idk if she could do this in SF4, but I hope A2A j.MP, j.MP xx EX Dive Kick, cl.HP xx LK Pinwheel is a thing in this game.
FSE is iconic to Juri.
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How iconic that she didn’t had it.And no the chaincombo system is no execuse
Juris FSE allow her to string normals together and cancel normals that would normaly not link/cancel.And she gets a super Dash.
Chun’s V-Trigger allows her to string moves together that would normaly not work.
Examples:
Overhead works as combostarter
f+hk works as combostarter
you can combo after back+hp
st.mp -> cr.hp works in V-Trigger,doesn’t work without.
There’re much more, but I think you understand what I mean.
Bison gets a mobilitybuff and can basicly chain his Specials into each other(as long they’re EX versions).
It’s not realy unique, if there’re already 2 modified versions in the game.
And something new and realy unique would be better, than the third version of this V-Trigger.
But who am I trying to tell this. Because you accept it to be the V-Trigger it HAS to be the V-Trigger.
And I will not waste my time, this time with arguring.
as chains instead of links. that is what makes it different. you really think that that and getting slightly different frame data on a few moves are the same thing? lmfao.
no…i -want- it to be her v trigger, because FSE was probably the most interesting ultra in 4, as well as one of the most interesting things about juri and it’d be a shame to not bring it back. especially since what they came up with to replace it, if they replaced it, would probably be boring.
Well yeah but none of them can cancel their normals into one another with their V-Triggers, which is the main difference there compared to FSE.
With those comparisons you made you could also make the argument that Laura, Ken, Birdie and Necalli have similar V-Triggers because it buffs their special moves all around, along with better mobility/frame data at least for Birdie, Laura and Necalli, yet they didn’t have a problem putting 4 modified versions of this type of V-Trigger in the game.
Having a V-Trigger that allows for normals to be cancelled into one another is more than different enough to be it’s own thing compared to Chun and Bison’s, along with that she’d certainly receive buffs to her mobility and other tools she has such as her moves in general and what not, which would make FSE stand out even more compared to those two.
Without FADC I wonder just how long FSE combos can be. Like if you release fireball, how are you gonna keep the combo going? Maybe fireballs in FSE would get higher stun properties allowing you to dash in and keep the combo going. Because FSE is supposed to be a barrage of attacks, no short SFV combos here! Unless they also change that fundamentally.
Yeah I saw that yesterday, Velociraptor asked me via PM on DA for permission to post the sprites there and I said yes, I was happy to see he actually did it
There are some tweaks I can see them do to make it possible for combos to be longer without FADC in the game. Maybe they could make her fireball cause less pushback so it would be easier to connect a normal afterwards, or they could make it so that specials also pushes her forward during chains (like during her normal chains) and that way we could have an easier time/more options to keep the combo going, actually it could be both I guess.
