Ok what the actual fuck
A Guile just traded with me when I did S.HK into HK releave in v-trigger, how? isn’t that supposed to be a fucking frametrap?
Traded with what ? You can DP between S.HK into HK Fuhajin in trigger.
One of the reasons it’s not that good.
As soon as I’m level 50 with her I’m never going to touch her again.
Probably going straight back to Laura and make everyone suffer who made me suffer during these last months. Juri just doesn’t have enough dumb stuff to survive in this game.
It is, however invincible moves can ofcourse interrupt it and beat it clean.
I’m suspecting the guile didnt do a flashkick though as there is something you need to know about her st.hk xx hk fuha. If you CHAIN into sthk then the gap between sthk xx hk fuha becomes interruptable by fast normals. It’s the same thing if you chain into st.mp it becomes minus on block.
A lot of non juri players arent aware that as soon as you see a Juri chain into st.hk you can interrupt her followups. If juri did sthk by itself during VT then you cant interrupt it unless you do an invincible attack.
That’s confusing then, because s.HK - HK Fuha beats 3 frame jabs, so unless they did something invincible, how could something trade? I honestly don’t get it either.
Tbh, it’s a bit like how if you chain cr.MK, s.HK into HK Fuha it loses the frame trap and can be jabbed, but mysteriously if you do cr.MK (or any starter) then s.HK into EX Fuha it can frame trap just like HK Fuha can. There’s still so much about V-Trigger that we don’t quite know, but even then it never seems to do much beyond just being cool mixups. Oh well.
You probably did it too slow. When I do it too slow that happens also. Just cancel faster.
EX DP is the only legit way out if your execution doesn’t fail.
It’s kinda hard to do it slow since is a buffered cancel, if you do it too slow it doesn’t come out, doesn’t it?
No it was a like others said not just S.HK into release but I chained S.HK from something else, I did not know that happened, it makes no sense to be honest and I traded with a crouching move not an invincible reversal, I’m guessing crouching short or jab, which are 4 frames afaik, even more bullshit.
On aside note, yesterday I switched to Laura for a day, I had better resoults than Juri, and I got that feeling of destroying a Boxer.
Then moved back to Juri because I was unbelievably bored (well tried to do Mika a bit and got rightfully ridiculized).
So what I’m saying is I am fucked, the only character I can really enjoy is Juri and between he being not very good and me being not very good I guess I’ll plateau at super silver. Which is fine to me, opponents are varied at this level and I don’t meet a thousand Ryus in a row.
I’m pretty sure you just screwed up your execution with it. Only time I’ve ever been jabbed out of it.
Juri compels you.
I don’t think is possible to screw the exectution of it, you literally do the input while the roundhouse yet has to hit and it comes out. I was doing a string with something before S.HK because I didn’t know it changed stuff so I wanted to force blockstun before going for a slow move like roudhouse, now I know better. So basically when s.HK is -4 normally and -7 in v-trigger, but the 1st hit you do doesn’t use v-trigger frame data (it does count towards hitboxes though as c.HP shows). Or at least that’s what I understand from it, good to know.
And yes, Juri compels me to this abusive relationship… which I guess is very much in character with her background.
It’s pretty crazy how many mistakes the other player can make if you “don’t do anything”.
I played few games vs people and I just sat there crouching waiting on counterhit while they kept trying to do random stuff and build meter. Eventually they jump and start taunting.
I find it funny how you can change their mindset by doing nothing.
Ofc you can’t go to master rank like this but so far it’s pretty effective.
“Do nothing and win”
Haha, honestly, it’s one thing I’m good at too. Letting people blow themselves up. I play a much more patient style, and with Juri it can frustrate people cause they get impatient and try to rush in. I’ve won entire sets off people cause they got too eager and started taking big risks, because I wouldn’t take any. You’re right, it can only get you so far. But playing in sets against reasonable players, it’s a very strong thing. And at times my biggest weakness, cause in turn, I don’t expect the radical stuff they do. And it causes me to lose, haha.
Not compiled by me, but found on reddit: a gallery of 4K screens of Juri’s nostalgia costume.
I’m pretty sure chained s.hk to hk fuha is a 4f trap. Guile’s jab will trade with the hk fuha.
And people ask why play Juri when other characters do what she does better…
THIS is why. Best girl…
It always baffles me how good looking this game can be, maybe because most of the time I’m playing against child molester Ken or Clippingfest hobo Akuma
Friends, brethren, setplay monsters; my SFV Juri netplay has returned! Some awesome sets coming tomorrow 
Oh ok that makes sense. I figured it was a speed thing because normally I just cancel it really fast cuz of the buffer window and people usually get blown up with buttons.
Messing in training mode and yeah, what you said is correct. You can’t do like s.MK, s.HK, HK fireball or you’ll get jabbed out. You have to use raw s.HK into fireball to create the true frame trap vs 3 and 4 frame jabs. Raw s.HK into fireball can’t be interrupted other than EX DP. It either true block strings or stuffs the jab and causes counter hit.
Can you pls write down some blockstrings for Juri? I noticed that a lot of high level players goes for smoething like cr.LP,cr.LK,cr.MK into EX fhua if connects, I also saw some combos where the player was able to make a store in beetwen the combo/blockstrings.
I’m watching the guide by Bafael but it doesn’t seem to get mentioned, I’ll try to look into Marlon videos
I said something right… that’s a new feeling.
That’s not really a frame trap though, cr.lk is 0 on block. the only connections that are surely frametraps are either jab (crouching or standing) into itself or into s.MP or s.MP into s.MP and s.MP into s.MK if they don’t have a 3 frame (but they would need to have frame perfect timing to trade with a 3f) anything else kinda revolves around canceling into a fireball. I’m not entirely sure that canceling some normals into LP tensenrin counts as a frame trap though.
The thing I don’t understand is why some characters get nealy endless blockstrings (Dictator and Rashid come to mind but to a lesser extent Akuma, Cammy, Nash and some others) while Juri gets to press 2 buttons and she is out of range to continue without risk.
gotta double post to see what’s wrong, forums not telling me the correct last post, basically not updating, and I’d like to hear answers to @stronzolo 's question aswell, because it would help a lot