Reading comprehension 101:
Other answers (in bold as usual)
Bottom note: Just to clarify because I know that people on SRK tend to be drama-happy: I just hope none of you see in any of my messages any kind of disrespect/patronization/mean stuff. I am just debating. Yeah because last time I said something here all I got was a shitstorm 
Ibuki forums always so funny
Still no proof from Buktooth. Iām wondering if he was just simply trolling everyone this whole time.
i said id wait to respond until dude came back with his findings. that will provide a bit more proof, since nothing that comes out of my mouth can be trusted. youāre not going to get video proof out of me, because:
also, itās amusing that iām giving examples of concrete situations that are provable, and am giving logical context behind them, yet iām somehow asked to āproveā these things through text. meanwhile, another guy is giving sensible arguments like āibuki canāt ever walk forward, jump, press buttonsā (wouldnāt that be a 10-0 match?) with no context or reasoning behind it and everybodyās super cool with that
the best part is that here we have somebody saying they know how to win the cammy matchup, and they provide the logic. nobody here even wants to try any of points written, because there is no āproofā? do you even want to win this matchup? do you just want a copout excuse for losing it?
Actually, there is one - EXTREMELY - good reason YOU should come up with proof first: 100% of Ibuki and Cammy players say that the matchup is Cammy-favored.
One day, you come here, say āHey guys, Ibuki destroys Cammy, and you know what, I am not gonna prove it to you because of course I know I am right, even if everybody in the world say the oppositeā.
If someday I happen to find a secret tech that would make Ibuki destroy, letās give another matchup everybody says itās against Ibuki: Fei Long, Sethā¦ Oh wait you say the opposite. So letās say Dictator. The first thing I would do would be to give arguments, and to back them up with a video. And to explain why. I wouldnāt say āHey guys, Iām sure HK command dash works even if you guys have all tried it, and actually, Iām pretty sure you havenāt triedā. You are aware that at some point, as a player, reading this, I understand āhey, you are a bunch of stupid players and I am words of wisdomā.
Bottom note: I will end up coming with a video. Whenever I have time. And also, remember that, Iām not doing that for me because I know that I spent a lot of time in training mode for this character. I am doing this for new players who may come and think that they can braindead mash HK cd on wakeup ābecause Buktooth said soā. And maybe, to show you that when everybody tells you that you are wrong, you may consider the fact that you might be wrong.
āI donāt have capture equipmentā -> We are in 2012. We all have some sort of smartphone or camera recording decent enough videos.
Unfortunately, I also have a life, which means that I canāt just spend all of my free time trying to show the obvious to somebody. Would you make a video to show somebody that you can punish Ryuās sweep with U2? no.
So instead of coming here, while most of us have never seen you there before, and starting to say the opposite than what we all know, maybe you would be the one needing arguments.
Anyway. Maybe Iāll have enough time/motivation this weekend to prepare a captain obvious video
Hello Buktooth.
Since I do have something to back my arguments, here are two very basic videos. Took me like 15 minutes to prepare/upload (and I donāt play Cammy AT ALL. I just reproduced a setup seen on video following a friendās advices)
First video:
No.
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(she can of course neutral jump and punish)
Second video:
I am not a Cammy player, but here is a very simple setup, once blocked, and once tried to escape.
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Bottom note: according to a friend of mine, Cammy player, pretty good with setups, Cammy should use MK Spiral Arrow against Ibuki. According to him, itās easier to make it ambiguous from a MK Spiral Arrow, and those setups of course beat wakeup command dash. Iāve yet to ask Alioune for confirmation =)
So will you stop speaking to me as if I was a child or a dumb player without arguments?
Will you continue insisting on things I just made two videos to absolutely make sure you were wrong?
Will you still keep saying āyou guys havenāt tried anything, I wonāt answer because you donāt want to listen to itā ?
Thatās all for me. I believe Iāve done enough to show you you were wrong. And a little advice from one Ibuki player to another: beware about HKcd use on wakeup. Given the fact that many setups will beat it on wakeup, trying it without being absolutely 100% sure will end up in you getting hit by a max combo to almost stun. Canāt really afford that
Personally, I use it mostly in corner (the spacing makes it easier to whiff), and against very late dive kicks. Oh, also against Cammyās unblockable (backthrow - st.MK ( j. LK), it escapes it clean, avoiding every OS she has
Bottom note: from now on, if you are willing to bring arguments (text or video), Iād be glad to hear them/speak about them. If you are just gonna continue ask rhetorical/patronizing questions without actually giving any information, I wouldnāt even read it.
Cheers!
@buktooth, just a little backstory, a lot of the guys you are arguing with helped write or contributed to the ibuki player guide (the author himself as far as I know has yet abstained from the argument) or the spreadsheet. As far as everybody else who actually frequents the ibuki boards is concernedā¦ they donāt have anything to prove.
These guys are in the same boat as you and they keep giving. Theyāre greatly appreciated and we were (largely) willing to give you the benefit of the doubt on your matchups without dismissing them as ridiculous before consulting you, we clearly respect you as a player and what youāve done for the cvs2 and umvc3 community is far from unknown to us, we just asked for explanations. Theyāve put in the time trying to figure out these match ups and they have helped countless ibuki players do the same. Weāre just asking you to back your numbers (without lip, please).
If you feel youāre above that much I donāt feel there is much else to discuss.
reminder, hereās what I left you with
Iām only going to do one detailed reply. Are we sure you want me addressing those two points?
i wanna play (only the extra credit though, i honestly gave up on this game about 9-12 months ago and havent been super active in it for a couple of years, though i think i know these answers)
many things, though i think you are searching for a specific answer here.
the many things (feel free to ignore this)
because shes cammy and she wants to
because she thinks she is in range
because she guesses an AA from ibuki and wants to put that divekick on that ass to beat said AA
because she knows its hard as hell to AA divekicks with reactionary ex kaze
because ibuki doesnt have any good setups after hitting ex kaze so risk/reward is in her favor.
** the answers i think (hope) you are looking for:**
1.because she cant safely poke/walk/dash in against lk/mk tsumuji in the neutral game, so she needs to go over it and the best way to go over it is to jump and the best jump is a divekickā¦
2.second hit of tsumuji? when i was using ibuki tsumujis to zone, often times my tsumiujis would wiff the first hit and then the second hit would make contactā¦ this is the range that matches generally played out at and makes tsumuji punishable to focus if it was a lk tsumuji
the only other reason to focus for cammy that i know of would be to punish max range slide, there are other more esoteric uses for focus against ibuki but id consider them more player specific, and probably not what you are looking for.
3ā¦. this one is super theory fighter of meā¦ but fadc forward dashesā¦ i guess to blow up a cammy that uses fadc cannon spikes to frame trap?
or maybe ibuki has a safe jump setup against cammy that cammy will want to use an fadc againstā¦ but that would mostly be to fadc backdash wouldnt it? idk im drawing a blank. teach me pls, im not being facetious there, i really mean it, im asking what is it that you do to make cammys more predictable with there fadc forward dash, to the point that i could spend 99.9% of my mental reactionary focus on that 1 possibilityā¦ it seems really hard, and i called it a theory fighter punish when it was discovered.
the same way i also called the yoga sniper focus forward dash u2 punish against sim that i discovered like 2 weeks into super, to be mostly theory fighter.
hope i did well there, if i didnt pls tell me where i went wrongā¦ sorry to be asking to be spoonfed, but seriously there are reasons why some players are top and others arent. ive tried to figure this match out over the course of years and havent been able to do it. in fact i dropped this silly game cause of divekicks in general.
having said that i actually entered into one of the tsrbs in seattle in like '10 hadnt played high level in months and went out 0-2 lost to futures rog who seemed to have some of the best footsies i had ever played against (and yes ive played against most of socals best players so i know what good footsies look and feel like to play against) and his were up there imho, though we only played 2 matchesā¦ so basically he outzoned and destroyed my admittedly rusty ibukiā¦ then in grandfinals i saw you basically destroy himā¦
buk, i dont doubt that what you are saying has merit, but simply stating things as on and off doesnt really help us. which is fine if thats what your after, to be left alone, to simply play casually.
its just that you are "buk"ing the system and not really telling why your points stand for what they stand for.
i can read between the lines, i know that you are saying to use neutral tsumujs to bait jumpins and react to divekicks by how high cammy goesā¦ i just dont for the life of me know how to actually do thatā¦ the bitch seems to be able to get over tsumujis easily and does alot more damage for a correct guess than we get for one in that situationā¦
anywho if you read all this thank you and, and thank you for contributing some admittedly fascinating new tech.
I absolutely donāt care about your conditions or your life. Youāre willing to give information? Give it. Youāre willing to act as if you were some sort of star having no time to deal with the regular players? Have a good life, kthsbye.
Reading comprehension 101:
I really start to feel like Iām speaking to some sort of 5-years old kid who has a secret but does not want to share it so he keeps taunting -__-
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This probably has a better place in the critique thread imho 
we want more players on this board!
at around 4 hours and 3 minutes i play ibuki against MBR (akuma)
just posting it cuz i can! i know what i have to work on so no critique please. f-word played the day after on this so check that out in the archives aswell!
Pointing out the obvious for you 
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Also, I always have the same feeling when I watch F-Word playing: F-Word is a great player, but not a great Ibuki player unfortunately. He could be SO MUCH more efficient if only he used max damage combos every time he has the occasion to do so! In a lot of situations heād use TC4 instead of st.MP st.MP st.MK for example. Iād really like to see him step up his game because heās already an awesome player (and a cool guy too, I met him at World Game Cup last year and it was really fun!), heās got an insane zoning/footsie game and very good reactions, I am pretty sure that if he starts using Ibuki at his full potential (including max damage everytime, possible loops, shenanigansā¦) heāll definitely start winning majors. Iām always cheering for him anyway
the sliding was a bad idea. but focus dash forward would have been sweept too? atleast i thought so. should have done overhead to avoid the fireball. if akuma throws a ground hadoken. can he throw a air hadoken before it dissapears?
i have never played against a akuma who knows what he is doing. played over 20 matches against RMZ after the team tourny and it went like 18-4. it was brutal.
atleast i learned alot about the matchup but he played more like a offensive akuma than mbr and infiltration.
The best thing to do with sliding is to be sure to know its range. In a general way, if you slide under a fireball:
And no, if he throws a ground hadoken, he has to wait for it to disappear before throwing an air hadoken
I also forgot to notice Akumaās wakeup teleport: itās pretty hard to do consistently, but being able to reaction neckbreaker against a teleport is a good thing against Akuma =)
Anyway Akuma is a pretty even matchup imho since both characters have enough tools to destroy the other, but of course, youād need to know the matchup before. Arenāt there no Akuma in Sweden?
(bottom unrelated note: I didnāt know you were Swedish, jƤtte bra )
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K, Iāll try there then thanks.
It seemed like you knew what you were doing. I think you just need to smooth out those rough edges, some of which Damascus already pointed out.
The only mistake you should make in SF is a bad read. At least in a perfect world, lol.
