The SFV Lounge: SRK is ALIVE. AE Hype is BACK! DISCORD going the way of DISCO

appo · February 15, 2018, 12:54am

stronzolo:

TWINBLADES:

SF4 sold more…

Okay are we really gonna use that as the metric when we all damn well know SF4 sold well because of nostalgia?

Like yeah SF4 sold a shit ton but that was because SF3 was a literal who with the mainstream gamers and the last SF they played was Alpha 2.

I don’t give a fuck what anyone says but the lack of an execution barrier is a good thing. Every fighting game has done it. Hell SF4’s FADC was supposed to be for the casuals. Easy BnB’s =/= lack of depth.

Edit: That’s great that SG’s brought you here but SG execution barrier is non existent. It’s one of the easiest fighters to pick up and mash in. Now actually being good a game like that is not easy because it’s a fucking Mahvel clone.

And the auto combos in Rev are for dicking around in you can’t take that shit online. (At least to my knowledge)

I have nothing against a low execution barrier, if anything I’m glad I don’t have to deal with 1 frame links just for a B&B, my point is that casuals don’t really care about those things, devs are better off with including decent single player modes for them and good intrudoctory tutorials for those among them that could be interested in learning the game.
You’re right about Rev2 stilysh mode but the same can be said about DBFZ autocombos

appo:

stronzolo:

itzpookiie:

stronzolo:

itzpookiie:

stronzolo:

amrraed:

Interesting, eh ?
http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/02/13/dragon-ball-fighterz-loses-80-of-its-pc-player-base

I know is is cancer but just skim over the comments section.

Kinda expecting it, glad I had the chance to beat all those xenoverse players before they left.
This should be a lesson to all those FGs developers that think that making their games easier and more accessible will draw more casuals

I’m sure by doing so they kept more players than they would have if they didn’t

Probably, but what would that change in the long run? If you’re not interested in learning a game from the get go I hardly doubt that some autocombos will change your mind. Those people are probably going tostick around until they’re forced to learn something and at that point they will just drop the game

Well you basically have a large amount of initial sales and increase the chance of long term sales because of it
Some will stay some wont but those that stay will bring in more $$$ through dlc
It’s not like all the casuals will quit
some will even become fighting game players because of the casual stepping stone mechanics of the game
It’s also not like the hardcore fighting mechanics of the game are affected by the casual mechanics either
This way they bring in more $$$, more players, and the chance to convert the casual into hardcore

What are the positives from cutting out the casual mechanics compared to this?

Also you say auto combos won’t change minds but they already have
Also the auto combos aren’t just stepping stones for fresh blood but also for fighting game players that don’t have experience in anime fighting games

And yet SFIV sold a lot more than games like SFV and DBFZ despite being harder to get into.

based on the wiki sf4 sold in the first two weeks one million units.
dbfz already sold in one week 2 million units…

My bad then, still I hardly doubt that autocombos had a big part in those sales

of course not. the franchise is much more important which stands behind the game but the same goes for sf, and tekken too.
to be honest. all that…the game is made for casual and stuff is bullshit. it has much more depth to it then everyone claimed it to
be and with he rushdown/lockdown heavy meta newcomers will have a hard time in ranked and i am sure a lot will be driven away
fast due to it being not as easy as they might thought.

at the end it sold well and it brought new people into the fg genre and even when just a tiny fraction stays its a win for the fgc.

Frost · February 15, 2018, 12:54am

just waiting for someone to expose me

amrraed · February 15, 2018, 12:57am

Speaking of inconsistencies. Mika’s ch st.lp, st.mp,st.hp is character specific now, only work on nig bodies standing and on everyone crouching .WTF.Capcom ?

I am boycotting this shit, all these inconsistent crap is pissing me off man.

Also via an Italian Balrog player called Dyni-clipper. Apparently Rog can VTC into VT2 from his specials and overheard . Because just why the fuck not?

Capcom’s big boner for Rog never cease to amaze. Sure, lets give him an OH VTC into CG mixup .

Saitsu · February 15, 2018, 12:58am

You’ll accept it eventually.

A10metal · February 15, 2018, 1:12am

[img]https://i.imgur.com/xESVZxM.png[\img]

HNIC_Mike · February 15, 2018, 1:16am

Not suprised tbh

Frost · February 15, 2018, 1:18am

stronzolo · February 15, 2018, 1:23am

How do you know Dino?

stronzolo · February 15, 2018, 1:25am

appo:

stronzolo:

TWINBLADES:

SF4 sold more…

Okay are we really gonna use that as the metric when we all damn well know SF4 sold well because of nostalgia?

Like yeah SF4 sold a shit ton but that was because SF3 was a literal who with the mainstream gamers and the last SF they played was Alpha 2.

I don’t give a fuck what anyone says but the lack of an execution barrier is a good thing. Every fighting game has done it. Hell SF4’s FADC was supposed to be for the casuals. Easy BnB’s =/= lack of depth.

Edit: That’s great that SG’s brought you here but SG execution barrier is non existent. It’s one of the easiest fighters to pick up and mash in. Now actually being good a game like that is not easy because it’s a fucking Mahvel clone.

And the auto combos in Rev are for dicking around in you can’t take that shit online. (At least to my knowledge)

I have nothing against a low execution barrier, if anything I’m glad I don’t have to deal with 1 frame links just for a B&B, my point is that casuals don’t really care about those things, devs are better off with including decent single player modes for them and good intrudoctory tutorials for those among them that could be interested in learning the game.
You’re right about Rev2 stilysh mode but the same can be said about DBFZ autocombos

appo:

stronzolo:

itzpookiie:

stronzolo:

itzpookiie:

stronzolo:

amrraed:

Interesting, eh ?
http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/02/13/dragon-ball-fighterz-loses-80-of-its-pc-player-base

I know is is cancer but just skim over the comments section.

Kinda expecting it, glad I had the chance to beat all those xenoverse players before they left.
This should be a lesson to all those FGs developers that think that making their games easier and more accessible will draw more casuals

I’m sure by doing so they kept more players than they would have if they didn’t

Probably, but what would that change in the long run? If you’re not interested in learning a game from the get go I hardly doubt that some autocombos will change your mind. Those people are probably going tostick around until they’re forced to learn something and at that point they will just drop the game

Well you basically have a large amount of initial sales and increase the chance of long term sales because of it
Some will stay some wont but those that stay will bring in more $$$ through dlc
It’s not like all the casuals will quit
some will even become fighting game players because of the casual stepping stone mechanics of the game
It’s also not like the hardcore fighting mechanics of the game are affected by the casual mechanics either
This way they bring in more $$$, more players, and the chance to convert the casual into hardcore

What are the positives from cutting out the casual mechanics compared to this?

Also you say auto combos won’t change minds but they already have
Also the auto combos aren’t just stepping stones for fresh blood but also for fighting game players that don’t have experience in anime fighting games

And yet SFIV sold a lot more than games like SFV and DBFZ despite being harder to get into.

based on the wiki sf4 sold in the first two weeks one million units.
dbfz already sold in one week 2 million units…

My bad then, still I hardly doubt that autocombos had a big part in those sales

of course not. the franchise is much more important which stands behind the game but the same goes for sf, and tekken too.
to be honest. all that…the game is made for casual and stuff is bullshit. it has much more depth to it then everyone claimed it to
be and with he rushdown/lockdown heavy meta newcomers will have a hard time in ranked and i am sure a lot will be driven away
fast due to it being not as easy as they might thought.

at the end it sold well and it brought new people into the fg genre and even when just a tiny fraction stays its a win for the fgc.

I agree with every single word. Still,the game seems a bit too simple compared to GG or other games. I would have liked specific movement options for some characters, don’t really like how everyone move the same way

Darc_Requiem · February 15, 2018, 1:27am

It’s been taken care of fam…

[img]https://i.imgur.com/vtx9Fpq.gif

Bea_Iank · February 15, 2018, 1:31am

You underestimate the power of my stubbornness!

amrraed · February 15, 2018, 1:36am

I run into him in the matchmaking but this info came from Pokey86 who is friend of mine and is a friend of his. He told me that Dino told him.

Deimos002 · February 15, 2018, 1:37am

Hey everybody

Discord slowly turning into plain old R/Kappa.

Saitsu · February 15, 2018, 1:38am

No I’m not.

iAntique · February 15, 2018, 1:53am

Can’t wait for season 3.5. It’s going to be amazing. Cause I just know Capcom would make improvements to the input delay and the netcode.

Right…?

Riiiiight???

Dragonfave723 · February 15, 2018, 2:08am

Falke theme has been leaked. Enjoy…

TrenchCoatJones · February 15, 2018, 2:12am

Falke theme is pretty awesome

Trife88 · February 15, 2018, 2:14am

Falke is cummin wit Blanka

Bea_Iank · February 15, 2018, 2:37am

I will be the last Zangief player if it comes to that!

Shinkuu_Tatsumaki · February 15, 2018, 3:06am

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu that Falke theme. Too good.