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[Volt]

looks at Alex changes
looks at Zangief changes

https://i.imgur.com/tnbXCPi.jpg

Wasn’t Alex buffed?

He got marginal improvements to damage from PB while losing stun and gaining recovery, chop is -6 on block.
Lariat has become an even more retarded button, but it being “bad” was never an issue with Alex
Granted we (or at least I) have not seen anything more concrete than “hurtbox changed” and so on, but it seems to me that capcom continues to not understand what they want to do with Alex, or they don’t understand why he is bad. I don’t think season 1 neutral based Alex is gonna return, but depending on how his hurtbox changes work he may end up being this season’s version of Laura.
Sad times all around

Yeah, but Cr. MP got buffed, right? His neutral is going to improve because of it, isn’t it?
Besides, if jump-ins are getting nerfed and AA’s buffed across the board, that’s huge for him.

[Evil_Canadian]

its good that kolins vskill got nerfed

its very good

[Gabri3l_WHOA]

I foresee matches against/as zangief are gonna be a lot more swingy with these changes to his lights and back throw loop,
Gonna have to rely more on “commitment” or just killing people with pokes

[Frost]

Juri :

Some ok stuff but nothing over the top, as expected.

Not sure what to think of her VT1 being 2 bars while depleting faster and gaining less bar from v-skill. But it is what it is.

Would had liked more work on her normals,such as less pushback from st.mp or even add her old forward mp back in the game.

She remains a character that will improve slowly over time but she will not see high spikes in buffs in one go, pretty much what happend in SF4.

Edit : need more info on that light fuhajin, more advantage on block ? more travel distance ? etc etc

Edit 2 : still maining her , i love you girl.

Uhhhh…VT1 being 2bars is going to be insane
You get infinite pressure twice a round

VT1 lasts longer, and depletes slower.

[You]

Kolin v skill nerf? Abi and Chun buffs? Yaaaay!

[NCK_Feroce]

looks at Alex changes
looks at Zangief changes

https://i.imgur.com/tnbXCPi.jpg

Wasn’t Alex buffed?

He got marginal improvements to damage from PB while losing stun and gaining recovery, chop is -6 on block.
Lariat has become an even more retarded button, but it being “bad” was never an issue with Alex
Granted we (or at least I) have not seen anything more concrete than “hurtbox changed” and so on, but it seems to me that capcom continues to not understand what they want to do with Alex, or they don’t understand why he is bad. I don’t think season 1 neutral based Alex is gonna return, but depending on how his hurtbox changes work he may end up being this season’s version of Laura.
Sad times all around

Alex received the same recovery nerf like the others grapplers, he isn’t alone. Chop being -6 doesn’t surprise me tbh,so many characters can’t punish tha overhead. Meanwhile his AA game get finally fixed and the best move he had get buffed (isn’t +4 oB,but having 4f active isn’t bad either). Consider those adjustments into the game big picture, none of the low tiers get buffed into the milky way.

[Volt]

Juri :

Some ok stuff but nothing over the top, as expected.

Not sure what to think of her VT1 being 2 bars while depleting faster and gaining less bar from v-skill. But it is what it is.

Would had liked more work on her normals,such as less pushback from st.mp or even add her old forward mp back in the game.

She remains a character that will improve slowly over time but she will not see high spikes in buffs in one go, pretty much what happend in SF4.

Edit : need more info on that light fuhajin, more advantage on block ? more travel distance ? etc etc

Edit 2 : still maining her , i love you girl.

Uhhhh…VT1 being 2bars is going to be insane
You get infinite pressure twice a round

And the timer got buffed too. Not to mention Juri has a VS TC. She may get three shots depending on how she’s playing the matchup.

Yo, Juri players! Your patience has been rewarded!!! (Unlike Ryu players’)

Go nuts, have fun!!!

[DevilJin_01]

@Paradise1955

Ibuki
Stamina
• Ibuki’s Stamina has been reduced to 925 from 950.

Standing Light Punch
• Is now +2 frames on hit instead of +3 frames.
• Is now +1 frame on block instead of +2 frames.
• Can no longer be chain canceled.
• Adjusted the move’s collision box during movement.

Standing Light Kick
• Adjusted the move’s collision box during movement.

Standing Heavy Punch
• Adjusted the move’s collision box during movement.
**
Standing Heavy Kick**
• Is now +3 frames on hit instead of +1 frame.
**
Crouching Light Punch**
• Hurtbox has been changed.
**
Crouching Medium Punch**
• Now has 16 frames of recovery instead of 12 frames.
• Hurtbox has been changed.

Crouching Medium Kick
• Is now +3 frames on hit instead of 0 frames.
• Is now -2 frames on block instead of -3 frames.

Crouching Heavy Punch
• Hurtbox has been changed.

Jumping Medium Punch
• Combo restrictions have been changed.
**
Jumping Heavy Punch**
• Hurtbox has been changed.
**
Jumping Heavy Kick**
• Hurtbox has been changed.
**
Agemen (b+MP**
• Hitbox has been changed.
• Hurtbox has been changed.
• The second hit of this move is no longer special cancelable.

Tobikura (j.LP, f+MK air target) **
• The distance opponents are sent after being hit by this has been changed.
**
Shakunage (c.MP, f+HK target)
• Is now +2 frames on hit instead of 0 frames.

EX Kunai
• 4 frames of recovery have been added to this move.
• Opponents are now sent flying further away from the explosion part of this attack.
**
Tenrai (V-Skill)**
• V-Gauge gained from landing this move has been reduced.
**
Rokushaku Horokudama (V-Trigger)**
• Stun has been decreased to 80 from 100.
• Combo properties after landing this have been changed.
• Meter gain from landing this has been increased.

Kunai Ikkinage (grounded P kunai release)
• Can now be canceled into Special Moves.

[NCK_Feroce]

Juri :

Some ok stuff but nothing over the top, as expected.

Not sure what to think of her VT1 being 2 bars while depleting faster and gaining less bar from v-skill. But it is what it is.

Would had liked more work on her normals,such as less pushback from st.mp or even add her old forward mp back in the game.

She remains a character that will improve slowly over time but she will not see high spikes in buffs in one go, pretty much what happend in SF4.

Edit : need more info on that light fuhajin, more advantage on block ? more travel distance ? etc etc

Edit 2 : still maining her , i love you girl.

Uhhhh…VT1 being 2bars is going to be insane
You get infinite pressure twice a round

VT1 lasts longer, and depletes slower.

But VT depletes faster if her store moves are used. 50/50

[mykka]

RIP Ibuki

Chun didn’t get as buffed as I thought, pretty minor adjustments.

[Volt]

Juri :

Some ok stuff but nothing over the top, as expected.

Not sure what to think of her VT1 being 2 bars while depleting faster and gaining less bar from v-skill. But it is what it is.

Would had liked more work on her normals,such as less pushback from st.mp or even add her old forward mp back in the game.

She remains a character that will improve slowly over time but she will not see high spikes in buffs in one go, pretty much what happend in SF4.

Edit : need more info on that light fuhajin, more advantage on block ? more travel distance ? etc etc

Edit 2 : still maining her , i love you girl.

Uhhhh…VT1 being 2bars is going to be insane
You get infinite pressure twice a round

VT1 lasts longer, and depletes slower.

But VT depletes faster if her store moves are used. 50/50

But chaining moves won’t end her VT in like 2 combos. Blocking that will be hard.

[MachoRhombus]

It seems Mika got buffed. Nice.

Buffed? I don’t think so.

Yeah, not really seeing how these changes get interpreted as buffs. I see a lot of hitbox and hurtbox adjustments to moves that aren’t anything special. There are also a few moves in the list (notably cr.MK and j.HP) were one wonders why anything is being changed.

You see now that she lost her crouching grab loop, her v trigger confirms do less damage, her command grabs have more recovery, her st.MP has more pushback on hit so her clap combos are even more inconsistent/non-existent, her 2 best jump-ins got their hitboxes adjusted, her splash got 3 more recovery frames so it’s even easier to punish and her cr.LK got more pushback on hit and block so both her confirms and tick grab setups are shittier she’ll truly get to shine!

[Volta]

Gief has been neutered. Lariat +5 frames of recovery, I guess 31 frames wasn’t enough already. +3 frames recovery for knee hammer is huge. Since his dash is the slowest in the game and his jump hurtbox is ridiculous, it was his best tool to close the distance in neutral. No more knee hammer followed by jab SPD. Cr. jab no longer chains and cr. short is no longer special cancellable so his combo-ability got hit too. And then there’s the command grab nerf… Oh well, Blanka won’t be long now.

[NCK_Feroce]

If their MU will remain the same even in SFV, Sagat can stay at home. Maybe not, she had to store her fireball now. Or maybe yes if Sagat hasn’t his trademark TS.

[Vhozite]

LMAO they nerfed Vega’s VT1 damage. That and it’ll scale harder because of the universal change. Un-fucking-believable. Also the air version didn’t get the juggle change, just a slight damage/stun buff so it’s still garbage. The other two versions got the juggle buff though. But with these changes he’s still reliant on having meter to get anything from his VT since it’s so weak raw now.

Almost all of his AA normals say they can hit behind him now, even s.hk. That’s cool, but I can’t see how they accomplished that without giving them hilariously OP hitboxes.

VS is CA and VT cancelable raw and after TC’s so his max damage combos will do more damage. Not bad I guess. Also reportedly build more meter which is a solid buff.

Claw cr.hp now has 3 active frames so that’s cool. Airthrow got a damage buff. Claw TC functions the same as the clawless version now. Roll loops got clapped and universal CG nerf.

Looking at these changes, Vega got better AA’s (controversial opinion but he didn’t need this), V-meter gain, and max damage combos, but his offense is super weak now. He lost his loop, weak to non-existant traps, and no mixups outside of tic command grabs, fake EX.FBA pressure, and VT2 VTC’s oB.

I think the idea is that AA buffs will force players to stay grounded more against a Vega that will have access to his VT1 more, giving him cancels from his buttons. But looking at these changes VT2 will be better imo.

Looks to be a net buff, but none of his problems got addressed and honestly the changes themselves are just boring. I’m also inclined to think this isn’t final myself.

[DevilJin_01]

RIP Ibuki

Chun didn’t get as buffed as I thought, pretty minor adjustments.

Ibuki got berfed. She lost some derp, but gained what I see as overall better fundamentals and more options to honestly frame trap. They didn’t nerf f+HK at all which is hilarious as I wouldn’t have minded that going down to minus 4 on block. Oh well keep the unga you deserve.

[A10metal]

TFW Abigail gets buffed and Kolin gets FUCCCCKKKEEEDDDD

[Spada]

FANG and ALEX getting nothing 4 patches later…See ya’ll in 2019

Are you seeing what Fang got? he has a V-Trigger now and his damage got slightly increased which is actually very good. If the hurtbox and hitbox changes are good, then Fang may be able to punish -4 situations with something more than a jab. Sure, I wanted his st.Lk to be back to 5 frames and his ex.Sotoja to be combable from light attacks but at least Fang was not nerfed like what happened in S02 and they are actively looking at improving his V-System.

[Evil_Canadian]

ya vega got nerfed

with the vtrigger change, and less damage even if you can ex walldive after it now you would only be doing slightly more damage than original vt damage, and you get to lose a bar for it!

lk roll loop dead

vega

…

NERFED!??!?!?!?

[Paradise1955]

@“DevilJin 01” those changes seems fair, I’m just hoping bmp is still a good aa after th hitbox and hurtbox changes.