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[Pro_Marshmallo]

SSJ Goku - SSGSS Goku are the clone characters, practically same moveset, minor differences

Goku Black is a different individual with a dramatically different moveset

They’re not. Super Saiyan Goku and Vegeta are the game’s shoto equivalents with a balanced close and ranged focus, the Blue variants are more rushdown focused characters that are meant to be more execution heavy (whatever that means for DBFZ) and Goku Black is a kind of mid-far zoner/trap zoner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hnwhe26ReMU (Normal Goku)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSyfMAstgyg&t=12s (Blue Goku)

Think of them as Super Saiyans are Ryu/Ken, Blues are Akuma/Sakura, and Goku Black is Gouken.

[Darklightjg1]

Spares vegeta to fight him again

Attempts to spare space hitler and leaves him at his word(later on knowing in resurrection of f that he wanted to fight frieza again)

GIVES CELL THE FUCKING SENZU BEAN

alledges he could beat fat buu but wanted the others to have a chance. If he could that would have saved 6 billion lives but in his arrogance he let it slide.

Tournament and power and more.

Fuck goku

It’s no coincidence that over half his ToP team were major villains at one point.
InB4 Goku plotting to become evil ruler of all universes.

[Volt]

Only one assist per character is meh also. Will likely force team compositions very early

This is, so far, my only major gripe with the game. It’s especially weird that they’d give the different versions of the same character (Gohan vs Adult Gohan, Goku vs. Goku Black, etc.) the same assist as that seems like something that’s going to discourage diversity (i.e. people will just pick whichever is the better version of the character). Looking at the assists that characters bring to the table I think that there will be a lot of value to be found in the most unique assists.

Lastly, between this topic and the DBFZ topic in ‘Fighting Game Discussion’ I am so thankful that lore-wise I don’t have a fucking clue what people are talking about.

Wait so SGGSS Goku, SSJ Goku and Goku Black all have the same assist, as do Mystic Gohan and Teen Gohan?

Awww, that’s disappointing. I understand it for SSGSS forms, but not for Gohan forms or Goku Black.

Goku Blue has a divekick assist. Nova-style.

[Deadpool_Merc]

Damn all this db talk just confirmed I ain’t getting back into that shit. Too damn much going on.

[Lion_Jak]

If you jump forward over Abigails head that negates a lot of his run shenanigans , pretty sure doesn’t have anything that can counter those jumps and if you’re in the corner then he will be in the corner.

Also you can just throw him out of runs, it’s unintuitive at first but possible if you just look.

He’s still pretty unga though.

or play Juri and lvl 2 v-skill the run, is pretty hilarious.

Funny until Abby parries the v-skill.

That doesn’t work either, he parries the first hit and does the counter in front while Juri teleports back, she doesn’t hit him most of the times when using it against run, but he still gets grey health from either armor or parry.

You’re wrong zio again.

Abi can parry her v-skill lvl.2 first hit. Put her in block stun and combo off it.

[Frost]

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Black is a zoner? Could have fooled me tbh, he looked pretty rushdown with focus on midrange

[Pro_Marshmallo]

Only one assist per character is meh also. Will likely force team compositions very early

This is, so far, my only major gripe with the game. It’s especially weird that they’d give the different versions of the same character (Gohan vs Adult Gohan, Goku vs. Goku Black, etc.) the same assist as that seems like something that’s going to discourage diversity (i.e. people will just pick whichever is the better version of the character). Looking at the assists that characters bring to the table I think that there will be a lot of value to be found in the most unique assists.

Lastly, between this topic and the DBFZ topic in ‘Fighting Game Discussion’ I am so thankful that lore-wise I don’t have a fucking clue what people are talking about.

Wait so SGGSS Goku, SSJ Goku and Goku Black all have the same assist, as do Mystic Gohan and Teen Gohan?

Awww, that’s disappointing. I understand it for SSGSS forms, but not for Gohan forms or Goku Black.

Blue Goku has a punch that kind of moves like Rashid’s EX Eagle Spike if I recall correctly. The game seems to be a bit less focused on assists because you mostly get different varieties of lock down assists with a few utility variants (18’s projectile absorb, Krillin’s senzu gambling). Very few characters seem to have “must have” assists other than maybe Frieza, Vageta, and Kid Buu but you can get slightly weaker variants from pretty much the rest of the cast.

The game looks to be a bit more like a GG version of CvS2 with assists rather than a full Marvel 2/3 type situation.

Unless I’m really missing something I would add Gohan/Adult Gohan to the “must have” assists list as they are, so far, the only uppercut type assists.

Depends on how much you need an invulnerable DP option. The push block/just guard/parry system isn’t something I have had experience with so I don’t know the ins and outs of proper defense and since metre comes pretty quick reversal DHC might be an acceptable alternative if you don’t want either. They def look like good choices but there are so many lock-down assists that it looks like they’re planning for lock-down assists to be the meta.

[Heat_Sleep]

Theres just a group of people who want only to play only “evil” people.

One of my friends I got into fighting games right before mkx, in sf4 he liked evil ryu

mkx he played quan chi

sf5 he played charlie cause he thought he was a bad guy(zombie look/powers), once he actually did the story he switched to bison.

injustice only played darkseid

looking forward to playing goku black the most in dbz

These people cannot be fixed.

Some people like evil characters and it’s fine. What I don’t like is people wanting evil clones of characters already in games.

Play Akuma if you want an Evil Ryu. Play in traffic if you want Violent Ken

[YorKeY]

Bitch, We NEED MORE GOKUS, AND WE NEED MORE DOLLS! CAPCOM RELEASE DOLL INVASION CHARACTER PACK FOR 9.99 PLZ.

WE just need less shotos.

[Evil_Canadian]

Damn all this db talk just confirmed I ain’t getting back into that shit. Too damn much going on.

Yes dbz is too complicated for many people. It’s ok that you admit you simply can’t understand the dense and layered tapestry weaved by db super.

[TheDarkPhoenix]

Is it to late to get into the beta for pre ordering?

[Pro_Marshmallo]

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Black is a zoner? Could have fooled me tbh, he looked pretty rushdown with focus on midrange

A lot of his kit seems to drop Black’s opponent back to full screen and I think he’s going to be about pressuring from far and then using his teleport and command grab to mix-up his opponent when they’re on the back foot.

[YorKeY]

Episode 47: Distress Call! An SOS from the future! A dark new enemy appears.

woah, scary title, also the hypest! o_o Black will return!

[Evil_Canadian]

Is it to late to get into the beta for pre ordering?

It’s never too late to give companies your money!!!

But you have to preorder on console no early beta for pc scum.

[Genistar]

As much as I like the tournament of power…It is dragging on a bit too much and I am hoping characters from other universes get some more development after its over.

[Mr.PaVy-RD]

I loved DBZ growing up i would’ve never discovered it if it weren’t for my mom. the anime is Hype but it eventually gets old and annoying when you realize how much theyve Milked the franchise and how lazy character creations are. no other character besides goku wins, the last time vegeta was EVER relevant was the namek saga after that vegeta always makes badass entrances and loses in 2 mins even in the movies same with piccolo. they also waste character development potential PICCOLO AND GOHAN!!

[Darc_Requiem]

The episodes are written months in advance. The “retcon” was planned.

Does that mean Goku is a hero? Fuck no, dude treats fights like a crack addict treats crack.

Episodes are not written months in advance at all. About 1 month. Dbz is not some tightly run ship.

And even if that were true which it isn’t it was about 2 and a half months between its obvious it’s all gokus fault and the new reveal of naw it isn’t.

Like I said it was originally toriyamas intention so show real consequence of gokus non stop battle lust til fans complained.

Toriyama out lines the entire arc ahead of time. He maps out the main plot points and Toei/Anime and Toyotaro/Manga fIlls in the details.

[Reticently]

DB Super is at least interesting, even if it has a lot of the same problems DBZ had.

Favorite aspect of the Tournament of Power is the way that the final bosses are just far better people morally than Goku and friends.

[Volt]

DB Super is at least interesting, even if it has a lot of the same problems DBZ had.

Favorite aspect of the Tournament of Power is the way that the final bosses are just far better people morally than Goku and friends.

So far. Toppo sounded a bit suspect earlier. Dyspo is straight up heroic though.

I like that there are no big bads in this arc. Gives that real tournament feel.

[Mr.PaVy-RD]

no other characters win besides goku theres like no reason to have the other characters around if theyre just gonna make him pull out random power ups outta his ass to win everything. i also dont get why they keep bringing freeza back into the story and movies if Cell was more powerful? im sorry i didnt bother watching any of super