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[DevilJin_01]

Most i know that wanted to play Infinite is still playing it that I know.

You promised me crack

I got some cheap knockoff instead

Never again

Well PC base is near non existant so that doesn’t help. I figured you would just wait for blayblue cross in the long term any way. Ill probably play that for a week or so just to say I played it

[A10metal]

Zamasu and Black together, what now anime metal senpai? @A10metal

They showed that in the teaser, that doesn’t fix my issue with another goku being in game. Seriously would anyone really care if zamasu was the playable character and goku black was the assist?

It’s literally the same fucking person the exception being one has the unique moveset and one got the shit beaten out of them constantly.

That’s the same as saying evil ryu should be in sf5 instead of ryu because ryu gets his ass kicked more. My point isn’t who stronger its that they really put another goku in the game.

[Frost]

Zamasu and Black together, what now anime metal senpai? @A10metal

They showed that in the teaser, that doesn’t fix my issue with another goku being in game. Seriously would anyone really care if zamasu was the playable character and goku black was the assist?

It’s literally the same fucking person the exception being one has the unique moveset and one got the shit beaten out of them constantly.

That’s the same as saying evil ryu should be in sf5 because ryu gets his ass kicked more. My point isn’t who stronger its that they really put another goku in the game.

E.Ryu has the same moveset as Ryu

Black doesn’t

E.Ryu and Ryu are also the same individual

Black isn’t

[Skort]

Google ESF aka Earth’s Special Forces.DBZ Half life 1 mod for PC.I am waiting for that thing to come for like 10 years.

Ofc I bought DBZF,I just hope it manages to develop a good playerbase that will last for quite some time.

[MilesRiey]

Zamasu and Black together, what now anime metal senpai? @A10metal

They showed that in the teaser, that doesn’t fix my issue with another goku being in game. Seriously would anyone really care if zamasu was the playable character and goku black was the assist?

It’s literally the same fucking person the exception being one has the unique moveset and one got the shit beaten out of them constantly.

That’s the same as saying evil ryu should be in sf5 because ryu gets his ass kicked more. My point isn’t who stronger its that they really put another goku in the game.

E.Ryu has the same moveset as Ryu

Black doesn’t

E.Ryu and Ryu are also the same individual

Black isn’t

So he is a shadaloo Doll then? Just about as bland tbh

[Frost]

SSJ Goku - SSGSS Goku are the clone characters, practically same moveset, minor differences

Goku Black is a different individual with a dramatically different moveset

[DevilJin_01]

Yeah that’s exactly what I was going to relate it to. War Machine to Iron Man also

Decapre and Cammy are different characters with “different movesets” but it’s still 2 characters that look visually similar and share parts of their moveset. Seeing 2 teams that are filled with colored spikey haired dudes is gonna be funny. Plus nobody really liked Decapre other than the people that played her

Goku black I’m sure is his own thing, but if you don’t watch the anime and go on visuals he’s a pink haired goku.

[A10metal]

Zamasu and Black together, what now anime metal senpai? @A10metal

They showed that in the teaser, that doesn’t fix my issue with another goku being in game. Seriously would anyone really care if zamasu was the playable character and goku black was the assist?

It’s literally the same fucking person the exception being one has the unique moveset and one got the shit beaten out of them constantly.

That’s the same as saying evil ryu should be in sf5 because ryu gets his ass kicked more. My point isn’t who stronger its that they really put another goku in the game.

E.Ryu has the same moveset as Ryu

Black doesn’t

E.Ryu and Ryu are also the same individual

Black isn’t

Ryu doesn’t have a diveckick, a raging demon, or a axe kick like evil Roo

Goku black is also literally zamasu in Gokus body

[bisonator]

Vesper talking about the early disk release in case anyone missed it.

[Frost]

Goku black is also literally zamasu in Gokus body

E.Ryu carries over tatsu, SRK, hado, his ultras are practically the same, his normals.

I’m almost sure the only thing Black carries over is the Kamehameha and he uses instant transmission in the manga, melee style is completely different, specials are all blade esque, he’s a bit like Vega in how he fights.

I just said it’s Zamasu, they aren’t the same person. Only aesthetics are the same, Zamasu(original body) really didn’t get enough time fighting to be given a full moveset, but on top of that - Black was the main antagonist, original body Zamasu was the less highlighted of the two - and the only discerning feature he had was immortality(He put himself in death situations multiple times so Black could land clean hits, immortality carried him).

[Nobus3r1]

Wait so SGGSS Goku, SSJ Goku and Goku Black all have the same assist, as do Mystic Gohan and Teen Gohan?

Awww, that’s disappointing. I understand it for SSGSS forms, but not for Gohan forms or Goku Black.

So variants of characters have the same assist? That in one way is good because if they have a really good assist you know both versions will have access to it. As far as diversity goes it generally sucks and further dilutes assist options.

In answer to both of you I am going off of this document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Qgi3z7NDatc5vv6eJvA0xzJsyeND8eMIAxUsNZuVpmM/edit
There are only two flavors of Goku and Gohan listed in that document.

I’m only gonna play the game long enough to understand how it works. Just doesn’t seem cracked out enough for me. Need my 8 way air dash and gun functions.

I feel like nearly every character in the game has some sort of gun function.

[Alkipot]

I just want Nappa/Tien/Yamcha to be good in DBFZ. Can’t wait to fingerbang the world with Nappa.

[Heat_Sleep]

I think Evil Ryu attracts the dude bros and douchebags more than Akuma does.

[itzpookiie]

Dbz super fucking sucks
Shut the fuck up

[DevilJin_01]

I feel like nearly every character in the game has some sort of gun function.

I would say everyone is probably closer to a Dr.Doom or Iron Man function. The way lead guns and Hawkeye arrows spray in Marvel is pretty different and can cover a lot of angles that aren’t really seen from most of the beam stuff in DBZ. Where it’s usually just beam, angled beam or shots that would be kinda like guns, but not really. Beams are a bit different in how they place on the screen than guns.

Nobody is going to really Chris/Winter Soldier/Hawkeye/Megaman it out in that game. There’s not even a Ghost Rider really. Everybody Dr.Dooms or Iron Mans with a generic homing dash and teleport for movement. I mean that’s adhering to the source material, but yeah.

Plus from what I’ve heard the game doesn’t really have any real chip. Not that Marvel Infinite has heavy chip either, but people make it sound like there isn’t much of a chip game which forces the zoning into the typical new age anime stuff where you always have a way to shut down block damage. Supers and certain characters will at least chip ok in Marvel Infinite.

EDIT: Yeah from looking at videos now I’ve seen Vegeta throw both a point shot blast and an assist shot blast and their health bars don’t even move on block.

[Pro_Marshmallo]

Only one assist per character is meh also. Will likely force team compositions very early

This is, so far, my only major gripe with the game. It’s especially weird that they’d give the different versions of the same character (Gohan vs Adult Gohan, Goku vs. Goku Black, etc.) the same assist as that seems like something that’s going to discourage diversity (i.e. people will just pick whichever is the better version of the character). Looking at the assists that characters bring to the table I think that there will be a lot of value to be found in the most unique assists.

Lastly, between this topic and the DBFZ topic in ‘Fighting Game Discussion’ I am so thankful that lore-wise I don’t have a fucking clue what people are talking about.

Wait so SGGSS Goku, SSJ Goku and Goku Black all have the same assist, as do Mystic Gohan and Teen Gohan?

Awww, that’s disappointing. I understand it for SSGSS forms, but not for Gohan forms or Goku Black.

Blue Goku has a punch that kind of moves like Rashid’s EX Eagle Spike if I recall correctly. The game seems to be a bit less focused on assists because you mostly get different varieties of lock down assists with a few utility variants (18’s projectile absorb, Krillin’s senzu gambling). Very few characters seem to have “must have” assists other than maybe Frieza, Vageta, and Kid Buu but you can get slightly weaker variants from pretty much the rest of the cast.

The game looks to be a bit more like a GG version of CvS2 with assists rather than a full Marvel 2/3 type situation.

[Evil_Canadian]

Dbz super fucking sucks
Shut the fuck up

fuck you bitch!!!

[mykka]

I think Evil Ryu attracts the dude bros and douchebags more than Akuma does.

Yeah I see those comments on EH a few times, with people requesting him and Violent Ken, that it would be a “dream season” :looney:

[Evil_Canadian]

Theres just a group of people who want only to play only “evil” people.

One of my friends I got into fighting games right before mkx, in sf4 he liked evil ryu

mkx he played quan chi

sf5 he played charlie cause he thought he was a bad guy(zombie look/powers), once he actually did the story he switched to bison.

injustice only played darkseid

looking forward to playing goku black the most in dbz

These people cannot be fixed.

[Nobus3r1]

Only one assist per character is meh also. Will likely force team compositions very early

This is, so far, my only major gripe with the game. It’s especially weird that they’d give the different versions of the same character (Gohan vs Adult Gohan, Goku vs. Goku Black, etc.) the same assist as that seems like something that’s going to discourage diversity (i.e. people will just pick whichever is the better version of the character). Looking at the assists that characters bring to the table I think that there will be a lot of value to be found in the most unique assists.

Lastly, between this topic and the DBFZ topic in ‘Fighting Game Discussion’ I am so thankful that lore-wise I don’t have a fucking clue what people are talking about.

Wait so SGGSS Goku, SSJ Goku and Goku Black all have the same assist, as do Mystic Gohan and Teen Gohan?

Awww, that’s disappointing. I understand it for SSGSS forms, but not for Gohan forms or Goku Black.

Blue Goku has a punch that kind of moves like Rashid’s EX Eagle Spike if I recall correctly. The game seems to be a bit less focused on assists because you mostly get different varieties of lock down assists with a few utility variants (18’s projectile absorb, Krillin’s senzu gambling). Very few characters seem to have “must have” assists other than maybe Frieza, Vageta, and Kid Buu but you can get slightly weaker variants from pretty much the rest of the cast.

The game looks to be a bit more like a GG version of CvS2 with assists rather than a full Marvel 2/3 type situation.

Unless I’m really missing something I would add Gohan/Adult Gohan to the “must have” assists list as they are, so far, the only uppercut type assists.