THE SF4 BEGINNERS Thread! NEW? POST HERE FIRST!

Is there anything in particular that is Hard about it? Survival Mode is pretty self-explanatory.

If you want to just beat it quickly then, yeah, 'Gief + Lairat all day long. Or if you pick Gouki, empty jump-ins + Demons always works on the computer.

^What they said. Gief + lariat + odd SPD. Should get you through the whole thing except for the one with no special moves. Might want to use Sim or someone else for that one.

who is a good character to pick up for learning to play footsies, pokes, and just utilizing normals?

^ Sim or Chun

The difference between a scrub and someone who is just generally inexperienced is much like the difference between noob and newb

People who are blatantly bad, do not learn and refuse help, that to me is a scrub.

For example, say you are against a GUile that uses cr.RH a lot. Well you can FA absorb the second hit and release a Lv2 for crumple. And lets say that after you do this nearly 10 times and punishing him, there he is still doing a very predictable block string with cr.RH at the end. Or Kens that do nothing but get close and spam hp.SRK. No matter how many times you punish them, they keep doing it. And the major part is: Despite all this they talk shit, dc on you, and actually think they are good because some idiots fall for their lame shit

That, to me, is a scrub

Now, people who are new to the game and are just random and bad are not necessarily scrubby, and most will ask for help and pointers after you stomp them and get a double perfect. These people know they suck, these people are willing to learn, thus saving them from scrub status

sorry if i sounded hostile, i really wasn’t trying to be.

i guess the term scrub could mean different things to different people. to me, a scrub is a player who doesn’t necessary suck at the game, but has narrow minded tendencies that prevent he/she from improving. for example, if someone beats me with a bunch of throws, instead of learning how to counter/avoid/tech throw, i would bitch about how throws are cheap. that is classic scrub behavior. usually these types of players are the ones that complain, talk trash, and never acknowledge that they are beginners.

a nub on the other hand is just a beginner. the nub could also be a scrub, but you don’t really know, especially online. i would consider myself a nub, and i’m trying to stay away from the scrub’s mindset, even though sometimes i find myself thinking “god damn sagat is cheap.”

i think the term “scrub” has been thrown around so much that its lost meaning and is synonymous with nub/newb/n00b/etc.

btw, thanks for the tip, gonna pick up chun just to learn to play footsies.

I am having trouble with online play. I have a fair understanding of the game I can complete pretty much everyone’s normal trial mode with my se stick but against real people I am downright terrible, I dont think I have landed any combo on a real person.

I cannot seem to be as offensive as everyone else, every time I get into a situation where I block I always get hit when I go to attack, or thrown. Against decent players I always get anti air’d trying to jump in.

Should I concentrate on learning a turtle character? I just cant seem to pressure anyone.

Anyway I have found the people I am playing against in player match are letting me learn and getting some decent play time, I usually end up with 10 loses - 1 win lol

You have to match your tactics to the people you’re playing against. While watching videos can be useful for a visual aid in what to do and when to do it, those sorts of tactics only work if your opponent is playing in a compatible fashion. As far as I can tell, most high-level play seems to involve lots of footsies and zoning, while being ready to pounce with a combo, super or ultra in case the other guy slips up. In online play, or at least the low-level online play I’ve done, you see lots of highly punishable stupid stuff. I don’t think videos are that helpful with that sort of thing simply because “real” players don’t play like that–they’d get slaughtered.

That said, if you want to emulate those tactics, emulate their defensiveness! Flowchart Kens are insanely aggressive with stupid, risky jump-ins and stupid, risky wakeup SRKs, and they tend not to learn from their mistakes no matter how often you punish them. If you can do five things–block, lariat, time your throws properly, throw out your ultra properly and zoom around with green glove–you will not lose to a flowchart Ken.

(My first two posts on SRK were effectively ‘I can never beat flowchart Ken!’ and then ‘I can consistently beat flowchart Ken!’ It seems like that’s the first hurdle of any online player trying to improve their game. Now I’m working on the next one: winning against people who don’t stink.)

It sounds to me like you’re already on the right path. There are always going to be people who are better than you and the best way to improve is to play against them.

The important bit really is to learn from those losses and improve.

“It won’t happen overnight, but it will happen.”

For those of you who have played both 2DFreeplay and on the console SFIV, how does the SFIV netcode compare to 2DF? I’ve only recently started playing via 2DF and it’s very hit and miss, sometimes it’s pretty smooth, other times you jump about with loads of frames being skipped.

Oh man. So…

I bought an XB360 about a month and a half ago, sort of as my foray back into gaming (long story). Buuut, when I bought it, among other games, I bought SFIV.

I haven’t played a Street Fighter (or I guess any fighting game for that matter) in years and years and years. I was never that good at them. The last SF game I played was probably whatever SFII was popular on the SNES back when I was sometihng like 6-8 years old.

Long story short, I decided today that if GameStop didn’t have any fight sticks or at least a fight pad, I would trade the game in, based solely on how bad I sucked at it. But lo-and-behold they had a used Blanka Fight Pad, so I picked up it along with the SFIV strategy guide, and decided I really wanted to give it a go.

The fight pad has already made a tremendous different. Now, forgive me for not browsing this whole thread, but I’d like to find some direction as to where to start. I’m not trying to be amazing by any means, but I want to get decent at the game to enjoy. We’ll see where it goes from there.

Any links/direction is greatly appreciated.

My gamertag is Vortecks87 if anyone is interested.

Thanks!

– Adam

find a character that you want to play then go to the character specific forums for that character and read up. then practice your stuff against people and start watching videos after you’ve been playing about a month.

since your a beginner i suggest that you pick up balrog or rufus, they’re both incredibly good AND easy to use.

-dime

what are some good techniques on the stick for performing chun li’s lightning legs and e. honda’s hand slap? right now i am just tapping jab/short with one finger as fast as i can, and it doesn’t’ come out until like after the 2nd jab/short. pretty sure i’m doing it wrong.

This might not need to be said, but make sure to read the FAQ stickied in the main forum. It has a ton of information, and links to another few tons offsite.

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=6215009&postcount=4

The soundtrack for this game is disappointing, how do I listen to those sweet remixed tracks?

There are remixes in the game?

I found out that those songs are only available in Arcade mode during the rival matches and some training challenges =( How lame.

Yeah I want the soundtrack on my blackberry. I LOVE the remixes but never get to hear them.

Man, I was really worried that I wouldn’t be able to unlock all of the characters. (Mainly Akuma, because he was a big draw for me to buy the game.) But by the time I had beaten the game with every other character, it seemed a lot more reasonable to beat it with no continues.

looking to buy an xbox 360 now. do i need a harddrive to install and play street fighter iv? the xbox arcade bundle comes with a 256 memory unit. is this sufficient?