THE SF4 BEGINNERS Thread! NEW? POST HERE FIRST!

How do you input a DP on wake up to auto - corect if the opponent tries to cross up?

^ i think you have to buffer the input and then push punch at last possible moment.

:lp::mp::hp::hp::hp: is generally best as you won’t then accidentally end on 2 punch buttons, thus using ex version instead of regular… though I find :lp::mp::hp::lp::hp: easiest to do myself with blanka and it’s very rare I get ex elec out by mistake.

Hey everyone

I just figured this is the place to put up my PSN screen name for some online sessions with other people trying to get better.
If anyone is in the Long island, ny area please let me know if you want to have sessions online or meet up.
PSN ID: Binary_idioms

I can’t decide on one character to use. I like 4 of them. Well, five, but I want to master one. How do I choose?

pick the one that you feel the most comfortable with

Play with them all a bit and you should start to find you’re playing some more than others, whittle it down like that. You could also watch some high level matches with all the characters you like and think which way you reckon you’d like to be playing in the future.

Hey all. I’m new to this forum but not new to SF. I first played SF2 many years ago and now I’m getting more and more into SF4. My main used to be Ken. For Street Fighter EX plus alpha I switched to Gouki but for SF 4 I mainly play Cammy and Zangief. I’m on PSN with the handle ADDremm. I like the vibe you have in this forum. And I love all the info. :slight_smile:

Hi, The other day I was watching some vids and this EL Fuerte player ‘Dawgtanian’ said he experienced some kind of lag in his first two bouts. He later realised the reason was the lever on his TE stick (the lever that is situated next to the Turbo functions and above the lock/unlock swith) was on LS and not DP ( there’s also a RS option). Now, my question is, what does this lever do? I always had it on LS and after reading what he said, I tried it on DP and I don’t know if this is a coincidence but after I switched over, I completed EL Fuerte and Abel’s hard trial 5 straight away! which before I couldn’t manage to do. During gameplay, I don’t notice any difference though. Somebody know?

I’m an idiot i dont even know how run the game without the disk.
please if somebody have an answer it would really help =D

is there a “get a match on xbox/ps3/pc right now!” thread anywhere, i’m either blind or stupid, both are possible

to clarify, i’m not looking for any specific character (i know those threads exist) more a general “come play me right now” thread

if you’re on xbawks go to “my games” (on the dashboard) then click on SF4 then hit “run from harddrive”

double postin like a noob.

I’m not completely sure what this means but

Whats the difference between safe jump vs neutral jump?
Im assuming neutral jump is simply jumping straight up and safe jumping is jumping towards the guy but not attacking?

Although I’m not absolutely new here, I had my first matches with a load of scrubs on PSN.

This guy was using ryu didn’t spam hadokens or anything but used it to setup a poorly placed tatsu. What was worse was that I kept failing to block his attempts even though i saw them coming. After 7 losses i finally beat him and then he jumps to sagat… (-_-)

Then I played another newbie, this person was even worse. Used Ken, Blanka, Honda, Dictator and Boxer. All this person did was kept moving back and waited til i moved in and did some charge move (if applicable). This got me so fired up because I kept getting hit even though I knew he was doing the same old shit all the time. I wanted to send hatemail if I won and kick him, but i lost so many times because half the time I failed to initiate a move correctly. So i didn’t send anything because I’d look like a scrub, so I todl both these guys to improve their games

Hey guys,

I’ve been around this site before, looking up strategies and such. Thought I’d give my opinion on SFIV and my experience with it. Feel free to let me know what you think.

So, I’ve enjoyed this game. I’ve hated this game. All of you losers who tell players to stop playing because they are frustrated with the game, shut up, that doesn’t help and the game can be frustrating when you are trying to learn all of the little loopholes and irritating noob strategies that the developers gave some of the characters. Instead, why not offer advice that may help them counter and make them a better player? Isn’t that what this place is all about? Anyway, I have mained Ryu since I put the game in the system and have enjoyed playing him. I was thrilled when they put championship mode in the game as a patch, my goal is to get to G1 in a few days. I have a few complaints about that and general online play.

Championship Mode

I feel like this is the way it should have always been, the battle points thing was a bust. The first problem with it is the Gap between G3 and G2. I was out of G3 after the first day of playing. Then G2 takes forever. I think I’ve won about 45 championships and 30 runner ups. I could have probably gotten where I am quicker if I wouldn’t have lost those runner-ups, but anyway, I think I have about 11,000 GP and I enjoy playing people with more GP because I want to get better, but why did they make it where you play a 14,000+ GP player one match, then a 2100 GP player the next match? Its not fair to the 2000 GP person, they always get their butt handed to them, and it doesn’t help me or them no matter what the outcome is (really). They needed to make it about the quality of players you beat, not the amount of people you can beat in a row IMO.

Lag (Championship)

Usually matches are pretty smooth online. Lately, it has been lagging horrendously (even when playing someone with 4 bars). I wish I could see what my connection looked like so I could know if I needed to do something about it. Also, don’t get me wrong, I absolutely despise laggy matches. I won’t even play someone who has less than 3 bars. Why can’t there be a search filter that lets you determine the amount of connectivity your opponent has? I would rather play 15 good, non-laggy matches than 30 lag-ridden, controller tossing, crap games. So for some reason I have been getting messages that the game was laggy. So what? I have no control over that once the match starts. I just play through it and at this point, its like snow in a football game. Everyone has to deal with it and no one gets an advantage anyway. I wish lag was not an issue, and I hope capcom does something to remedy this in SSIV, but I doubt it.

Dhalsim

So as a Ryu player, dhalsim gives me more trouble than ANYONE in the game. I don’t fault any Ryu player for being frustrated at this matchup. For the most part I respect any player who chooses anyone in the game. You have the right to choose who you want to play with and that’s just fine by me. What I don’t like about Dhalsim is that they custom fit this game to his style of play. First, no parrys. I could go on all day about how parrys should be in SFIV, but it doesn’t matter because they aren’t. If they were in the game, jumping in on Dhalsim would be a WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY. His anti-air knee has a hitbox the size of Mt. Everest since, psychologically, you are trying to move in on him the whole round, it is frustrating when you instinctively jump in and whoops…instant damage and more Dhalsim pattern game. Also, no Guard Crush. Why? Why not put in guard crush? Not putting in BOTH parrys and guard crush leads me to believe that capcom wanted a turtling style of play that caters to charge characters and turtle players. Charge characters have a tough time against good Shoto players but having his long attacks, teleport, and disgusting anti-air makes him the biggest turtle of them all. The reason people don’t like this kind of matchup and get frustrated at dhalsim players so easily is that you have to totally overcompensate for him and go into turtle bashing mode. I can play Cammy, Chun, Bison, Guile, Balrog, Blanka, etc… and still have the same kind of mindset when playing them. With Dhalsim it is extra challenging, and I know he’s slow and his damage isn’t great, but I’ve had matches where I couldn’t land 2 hits on him because the guy turtled so much. Also, I would be a little more sympathetic to Dhalsim players if half of them didn’t taunt me 5 times a round. Is that your way of baiting me? Are you that much of a prick that you want to gloat about your cheapness? In any case, I like Dhalsim as a challenge because he brings out the best I have in the game. I just wish there was a little more of a penalty for having Obsessive Turtle Disorder.

Characters

As long as they had Ryu I was going to buy the game. Simple, it was going to happen. I do like other Characters, I like Bison, Rufus, Sagat, Sakura, Gen, and soon to be Guy (YES!). I felt like ranting on a few of the characters. Sagat, too much power, range, speed of fireballs, and juggle/linkability/ultra. Overpowered, but I still love him. El Fuerte- What is so great about a spastic, button mashing, spamming the flying throw and body splash move Fuerte player? I’ve heard all kinds of lame excuses like “He does so little damage” and “You’re a scrub for not learning how to stop/defend it” or “He’s low tier, its harder than it looks.” BS. I’ve used him and taken out decent players by spamming that dash into flying throw move and body splash. Speed is everything in SFIV, if you are faster, you will get more hits in. If you suck, you wont link the hits, but if you know what you’re doing, you only need a few moves to hit before you destroy someone. El Fuerte’s speed is overlooked and is what makes him so incredibly cheap. A Fuerte player can spam 3 moves before I’m done with 1 SRK. all he needs is to hit one of them and most of them stuff my SRK anyway. Also, its really annoying to lose to this goofy stereotype. He is the kind of character that people who want to annoy you pick. I realize it’s one of the more flimsy racist citations, but what the hell a mexican/wrestler/cook with broken English? How shameful. There is no honor in that character or the people who made it. Seth, eh…like Sagat, I don’t seem to have much trouble with him anyway, but wow what a set of moves. Not to mention a teleport (then grab). I used to think that Blanka was the cheapest character in the game, and he can be one of them, but after playing him enough times, he’s not so tough. His ultra is really made for bailing out scrubs (What is with the chip damage?). I mean I have had about 1.5 inches of health left and I know I’m screwed if I block. BTW if anyone has trouble its block low (if close because he does that ground pound to start it) then he goes up high (block high for that) then block low when he rolls at you. The only reason I put that in here is because I found it difficult to find that info and if someone has read this far, surely they will appreciate that info. Anyway, the only other problems I have with Blanka is the way his slide move works and his EX Jumpin Roll. In a tight match these moves are very difficult to anticipate and the EX Jumpin Roll can be moved around, so where am I supposed to block? Lastly, I don’t really care for Balrog. His jabs stuff nearly everything, and when a pattern Balrog player confirms a hit, buckle up because you’re going into a headbutt/ultra. I would say that the two characters that need preparing for (I think its retarded to have to prepare for characters) as a Ryu player are Dhalsim and Balrog.

Character Names

I’ll just say briefly that I do not care if I am not saying Claw or Dictator or Boxer, etc. I am referring to the names of the Characters I have always played with in Street Fighter. I know they goofed with the names in the Japanese one/American One, but that’s not my fault. If they wanted their names to be Dictator then they shouldn’t have messed around with some dumb, gimmicky Mike Tyson rip-off name anyway. I will call them M. Bison, Vega, and Balrog. I am not some lame comic-book-guy/SF nerd and I choose to call them by their names in the game I play. I love the japanese, but I don’t care what you call them. Most of the people who say Boxer or claw are usually fanboys who want to sound learned about the game, but call them what you want, just know I will be calling them what I call them. Don’t mean to offend on my first post, but I’m just keepin’ it real.

Arcade Mode

It was great to put the Fight Request in Arcade mode, think that’s cool. The problem with Arcade mode is that none of these CPU opponents play the way good online players would. Everything I refer to hear is based on playing it on the “Hardest” setting. They spam the hell out of an ultra as soon as they get it, the fall for focus attacks like it’s the first time they’ve seen it, and ultimately they are just way too easy. They condition you to play poorly right before you are going to play a human who has seen your tricks before and wont fall for them over and over like the CPU does. It’s counter-productive. Capcom should make their AI play like Tournament players like Daigo and make the Hardest Mode HARDER Capcom. It’s a joke. Just like survival with Zangief. The difference between a Human Dhalsim player and a CPU Dhalsim player is ridonkulous.

I know I’ve written a novella here so I’ll wrap it up and hopefully get out there and post on some other threads. Finally, I will do a semi-rant on my own Character, Ryu.

Ryu Players

First, it’s RYU (Ree-you). That is how they say it in the game people. The game has been out for 22 years, its about time people say it right. Anyway, this isn’t really a rant, but I guess at the risk of sounding like a hypocrite, all I ever see online is Ryu players. I am a contributor to this as I think I’ve used Ryu 95% of the time for about 2000 matches. I really think they should have just named this game “Ryu.” Is it Daigo? Is it that he’s so balanced? Does no one want to risk losing online? Is it that it’s so easy to chain a Metsu? Who knows? I just have noticed that if I don’t face a Ryu in all 4 matches of a championship, I will see him usually at least twice. I don’t know. I just have to most fun using Ryu, and I wouldn’t care if they nerfed him to make others stop using him. He will always be my favorite character and to hell with anyone who who questions his eminence.

ok ok ok, first post and all that shit. PC player here, just decided to get serious (which is why imma get an xbox) but i JUST started on a stick today for the first time since SF2, and got a hella deal on an MvC2 stick at the local gamestop. woot!

quit crying you play ryu. go to the ryu section for help.

Neutral jump = Jumping straight up, as you say.

Safe jump = Coming in with a jump attack in a way that hits the opponent if he/she blocks, but still lets you land early enough to block a counterattack attempt.
Doing this to Ryu is impossible, but you can pull it off against, say, Sagat: If he blocks, you go into a blockstring, if it hits (thanks to him trying to do an attack that has less priority, or simply not blocking) you get to do a nice jumpin combo, and if he tries a Tiger Uppercut, you get to block that and then punish.

About what? Been there.