THE SF4 BEGINNERS Thread! NEW? POST HERE FIRST!

Set it to “easiest”.

If you’re just trying to unlock stuff, set it to easiest and just spam Zangief’s lariat, you can get perfects that way.

I know questions don’t get any “n00bier” than this, and please take it easy on me. This is the first SF game I am attemtping to take seriously-I downloaded SF2HDR but I didn’t play that much-and I can’t get ultras down. I have never done one so far. I am playing with a normal 360 controller; I’m using the analog stick. And yes I am getting a stick soon. I can do the supers where it goes df->df+P. But I can’t do the ultras where it goes df->df+p+p+p, like Rose’s super and ultra and many other characters. Any tips for trying to pull it off while using an analog stick? Thanks in advance.

it’s just going to take time. playing against the computer is an ok way to start getting used to which buttons do which moves, but the only way to improve is to play against other people constantly. losing = opportunities to learn.

as you get beat, try to remember what gives you the most trouble. write it down if you have to.

then watch tourney vids online, and see how the tourney players deal with your specific problem. look for not only what they are doing, but also what they AREN’T doing.

There aren’t much (if any) tourney vids of the console-only characters yet, so if you want to learn, it’s probably best to stick with a character that’s been in the arcades for now.

again, the only way to improve is to play A LOT. and then take breaks to think about why you are losing.

GL.

Can you conserve your back charge when you backdash cancel out of focus? Or can I dash forward out of FA and do the move or finish a bfbf command? For example connect focus attack, dash to cancel recovery, to bison ultra.

Yes you can!

Sounds like you are missing a button or two, are you using the Px3 assigned button? Or are you trying to hit all of them seperately?

It’s been mentioned before (easy to miss in this thread), but check the Training Mode … there is a really good menu option in there to check for inputs you’ve made. It will tell you all the directions you’ve pointed to, plus the buttons you’ve pressed! Start doing the ultras on there and you’ll see exactly where you’re going wrong. It’s helped me out tremendously.

Practice is helpful, but knowing where you’re going wrong is more important. Check it out in the training menu.

alot of this is practace, you cant pick it up and just start executing like youve been playing forever. start easy and work your way up. in general, there are no tricks to executing specials, supers, and ultras. if you have specific questions on combos or moves feel free to ask, this is the place.

i think it does increase but i dont think ive ever seen anyone live long enough to get stunned twice so i totally wouldn’t worry about it. that shit is as rare as a perfect game pitched in baseball.

use the 3p or 3k buttons on your pad, this wont even be a question when you get a joystick

this is a common misconception, there is NO charge partitioning or charge STORING in sf4, its all plain and simple:
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edit: props to gilley for the vid

Yeah I’m doing that, I have attack data, infinite revenge, and input data on. I’m using the normal two punch control scheme, its the default, with X and Y being punch. How fast do you have to press punch? Thanks
EDIT: Just saw Dentron’s post, thanks. But what are the 3p buttons? I just googled them, no success :frowning:

^i really dont even know how to answer that, id have to see a video or an input list or something to tell you what youre really doing wrong. it sounds like you should just be able to press one button (3p) instead of the other (hp, mp, or lp) to get the ultra,

edit: i mean use the left bumper or left trigger, i think on default they are set to all 3 punches and all 3 kicks respectively so you dont have to push 3 separate buttons at the same time.

hm, maybe i misunderstood the Q.

i didn’t think he was asking about charge partitioning (despite him using the word “store”). i thought he was just asking if one could charge, dash, then special/super/ultra, which is definitely possible.

e.g. back (FA or no FA), forward, forward, back, forward+P.

that is possible.

partitioning, like dentron says, is not. sorry for the confusion.

Cool thanks for answering and posting the vid.

Hey folks, first post here, cool forum.

I’m really new to fighters. I picked up SFIV a few days ago, and after unlocking everyone but Seth, I’ve decided that I’m terrible. I recently invited a few buddies over to play with, and got schooled. Hard.

One of my friends in particular, picked Ken and Ryu and Sakura a lot, and really enjoyed dragon punching me every time I got close, or jumped or breathed. It was absurd.

I want to get better. I want to learn.

I’m hooking up internet with my PS3 this weekend, but until then, I’ve been sitting in practice mode, just trying to get the basics down. I’ve been having a hard time pulling off the standard ‘hadouken’ move. Down, downforward, forward, punch, I think it is. I can’t pull it off when I want to. Any sort of tips…for that?

Anyway. I’ve got a few questions.

1st- I’m using the PS3 pad right now. I can’t decide if the analog stick is better, or the pad. Or should I just get an arcade stick. (Mind shooting me a website that would sell them, and a decent brand to look for.)

2nd- I’m having a hard time doing the charges. Especially for Balrog. The backwards ones, they seem very finicky. Basic moves in general are giving me a hard time. What’s a good way to get this stuff down?

Thanks folks, looking forward to posting here more. Dig the place.

unfortunately, it’s very hard to answer Q’s about things like executing fireballs when we can’t see exactly how you’re doing them. unless we skype with everyone with questions (lol), all i can say is try more harder!

haha, but seriously, my wild guess is that maybe you aren’t doing the motions fast enough. try not to think of each direction separately, but more like you’re going from point A (down) to point B (forward) in one smooth motion.

and make sure you don’t press the punch button until you’ve gotten all the way to forward, otherwise a crouching move will probably come out instead. in fact, you don’t even have to press punch at the same time as forward. press it AFTER for practice. you have more leeway than you might think.

with charge moves, don’t look at what’s happening on the screen. just hold back for 2 seconds or so, then quickly hit forward+punch. i think it helps to not pay attention to what’s going on screen.

other people might be more help with the sticks, but ‘hori’ is just one trusted brand name that gets thrown around a lot.

GL

edit: as for stick vs pad, it’s really all up to you. there are plenty of people who beast with pad, but the majority of serious players use sticks. i personally recommend sticks, b/c you have easier access to all buttons and it’s WAY easier to double tap, but you have to find out what works best for you.

but be warned, converting to stick can be a PAINFUL process. so don’t say “fuck sticks” just cuz you are worse with them when you first try. it’ll take at least a week, a month, or even more to adapt fully.

hadouken question: i used to use the d-pad before i got a stick, roll your thumb from down to fwd and then press fwd and punch at the same time. it helps to cover your thumb with the bottom of your t-shirt imo.

1st: as far as ANY street fighter game is concerned, no one good plays on pad and no one has ever finished top 8 @ evo on a pad. ps2/3 pad is acceptable for tekken (SCIV?) but for sf4 and most other fighting games you need an arcade stick. there are plenty of flavors talked about in the tech subforum:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/forumdisplay.php?f=177

2nd: practice.

Maybe stick sales are a better indication of people that will still be playing down the line, and they’ve sold a ton I think…

Either that or I’ll be lucky enough to get one of those uber Sanwa bastards off of Ebay in a few months…

Im new to SFIV and im having big trouble with blocking.

Playing on the ps3 Dpad atm and its horrible.
Im pressing the directional buttons as hard and accurate as I can but the opponents still hit me most of the time. Its like they go right trough my blocking, like im not blocking at all! (with regular attacks like c.lk, c.lp almost anything!)

So when im in a close fight with someone, they block ALL my crouching/standing attacks and then just rip trough me like im not blocking, while im pressing back/down+back so hard my thumb is as white as snow.

Ive been practicing since last saturday and it really feels like im doing something fundamentaly wrong. But on my own I simply cant figure out what. Its not like there is another way to block! Is there !?

Think learning to block is gradual and instinctive… Mostly subconscious trial and error as you come up against new situations… Stick with it, once it’s natural it applies to pretty much all 2d fg’s…

I dont think I understand what you mean.
Blocking is pushing the back/back-down button. Either you do it or you dont.

I do it and it doesnt seem to block a lot for me. Im not ‘forgetting’ to block or anything and im not too slow with it either. I block like the first 1-2 hits and then the rest just ISNT being blocked and hits me in the grape!

Since you are new…
You are blocking low attacks with low block and so on, right?
And overhead attacks go through low blocks and need to be blocked high.