I think they’re both around the same audible level.
I debated where this should be posted, and thought this would be a good thread b/c it would attract people looking to buy components.
I just ordered eight OBSF-30s and a jlf-tp-8yt-sk for modding an SE Fightstick. I used two different vendors, and here’s a report about how the materials were packed.
I got the stick from gameshark.com (I think I was linked there by the Kayane Fightstick promo). These things seem hard to find in the US, so I jumped at the opportunity to get it. It was shipped in a huge box, and the stick itself was only packaged in a plastic bag. When I received the package, it was rattling around in the box, and one of the connector pins was slightly bent when I pulled it out. I haven’t tried to hook it up yet.
The ball top, on the other hand, was wrapped in bubble wrap and packing tape, and then sandwiched between two air bladders. While the joystick body bounced merrily around in the other half of the box. Go figure.
I got the buttons from Lizard Lick. (I would have ordered the stick from them, too, but they were out.) The buttons arrived packed in a little plastic tray that fits them perfectly and securely. This tray was in a bag, which was then packed in a small box full of packing peanuts. Very impressed with the job Lizard Lick did in packing these things.
Just something for all you modders to consider as you order parts! (I’ll put pics of the finished stick in the New Fightstick thread when I get the art on it.)
Sanwas definitely are loudest. Seimitsus are quieter (as in, I can play without annoying anyone in the house)
um, can I get a repost of the pinout for the JLF-H/JLF wiring harness? I’d appreciate it.
Just wanted to say thank you for the information! I’ve recently started shopping for a stick and all the different types (Happ, Sanwa, etc.) were a bit confusing
Hey, does anyone know if I can pop out the plungers and swap them on Seimitsu buttons like the Twisted OBSF-30s on LL?
Yes, just make sure you get the same model buttons to swap them with.
^ picture saved!
Saves me the trouble of trial and error which usually turns out as no inputs come out except for up then I go and flip the harness right side up lol.
Can i install a Ls-40 seimitsu on a tournament?
What i need? For example: ¿Does it need a mounting plate or something to fit?
Does Ls-40 a 5 pin to connect without any problem?
Seimitsu LS-40-01 should install fine in a Madcatz Tournament Edition.
The 5-pin connector just has to be flipped around IIRC.
Which of these sticks would you choose and why?
Seimitsu-32-01
Seimitsu 40-01
I’m undecided
¿Do both have the same quality of components?
:china:
I have a Seimitsu LS-32-01 and was wondering if it was normal for it to “pop up” when pressed firmly against the walls of the gate?
Yes that it normal.
I noticed both companies have square buttons, supposedly for mahjong games. Do they act like the respective company’s other pushbuttons? As one of those folks who likes to rest their fingers on the buttons, it would be a plus if I knew for certain which I’d have less chance of accidentally activating.
Just use seimitsu buttons instead of sanwa, theyre not as sensitive and should do fine for resting your fingers on. I used to have that problem with sanwa buttons and changing to seimitsu worked wonders. Years later I can now use either brand without problem
I have a question. Will seimitsu’s PS-14-DN-K (24mm version of the KN) take sanwa switches? The PS-14-DN-C buttons I have already take them just fine I’m just wondering (hoping) if the DN-K will also.
Yes. All 24mm, PS15, PS14K and PS14P’s use that smaller size seimitsu microswitch.
Random question…
Do Sanwa OBSF-30 and Seimitsu PS-14-G look identical from the outside (besides color differences?).
I’m just wondering if people can recognize Sanwa vs. Seimitsu on sight.
PS-14-G’s have flat plungers, its pretty easy to tell right away.
There’s no right or wrong as far as components are concerned… It’s a matter of what YOU’RE comfortable playing with.
I can give you an opinion, but that’s all it is. Opinions are NOT fact – a subtle distinction lost on at least 60% of the people on SRK. I can’t tell you to play with a joystick because “I think” it’s better. Use the components that are comfortable for you.
The quality of the JLF’s and Seimitsus are equal. Both brands will last a long time as long as you don’t A) throw joysticks outside of a 10th story window or B) loan joysticks to a frat brother who decides to have a kegger that weekend. There are more stories of joysticks being destroyed by acquaintance assholes who don’t take care of anything not nailed to the floor than there are of joysticks breaking “for no reason at all.”
Basically, the LS-40-01 is a smaller version of the LS-32-01 but that doesn’t tell the entire story. The -40-01 uses the same mounting plates, spring, and ball handles as the LS-32. All other particulars are different. The most noticeable difference in construction besides the more compact size is slightly more plastic useage in the LS-40-01 but it’s generally the same high standard of construction as the LS-32-01.
That said, some advantages of the LS-40-01 over the LS-32-01 ==>
A) the LS-40-01 does NOT pop when you hit the gate hard like the LS-32-01 does occasionally;
B) it takes substantially less effort to input movement into an LS-40-01 than it does for the LS-32-01, JLF, and most other joysticks… In other words, the LS-40-01 is a “tighter-feeling” joystick. This also makes the LS-40 more difficult for some people to use because they have to get used to using less muscle when playing with the joystick. I could only imagine that some people would find the LS-56 a worse joystick to play with than the LS-40 because it takes sensitivity to a higher level;
C) Word around Neo Geo fighting game fan circles is that the LS-40 series was in fact the joystick used on SNK Neo Geo cabinets in the 1990s and was the basis for the control column of the old Neo Geo AES joysticks. There are in fact a number of older pre-PS1 joysticks that DID use LS-40 knock-offs such as certain production series of the Capcom SNES/Genesis era Capcom Power Fighter joystick made for the home releases of SF II. There is also at least one later console generation release Ascii joystick that has a joystick very similar (but still a knock-off) to the LS-40;
D) You DO NOT have to custom make or modify a JLF shaft cover for the LS-40 series. The LS-40 comes with its own shaft cover – the same shaft cover used for the LS-55 and LS-56 series joysticks;
E) The LS-40 uses an E-clip to hold the assembly together; the LS-32-01 is the only Japanese joystick I’m aware of that’s held together by a C-clip. That to my mind is the single worst construction feature of the LS-32 besides the fact that you have really have to remove the PCB of an LS-32 before you can install the mounting plate onto most joystick faceplates.
I happen to like both the LS-32-01 and LS-40-01 and have plans to move my joystick “fleet” to a mix of 50/50 – half LS-32-01, half LS-40-01.
On days when I’m relaxed, I like the LS-40-01 better. On days when I feel cramped or can’t relax, the LS-32-01 is a better joystick to play with.
Experimentation-wise, I’d leave the LS-40-01 alone. I’ve tried tightening the tension by installing another LS-32 spring (stock LS-40 and LS-32 series use the same spring) but it gets TOO tight quickly. You can get away with a bit more spring tension experimentation on the LS-32 but both are fine in stock condition… They are the only joysticks that I’ve learned to be comfortable playing with square gates. I never got used to the looseness of the JLF – even with spring mods it’s loose and has huge throw – and I don’t care to use that joystick on most pre-SF IV fighting games.
Not as many people here play with LS-40’s because they’re not stocked as well as the LS-32 and JLF are at arcade parts stores. Also, the vast majority of pre-made joysticks people buy – well over 75% – come with JLF’s installed. The very few that are pre-built with Seimitsu parts such as the ultra-limited HRAP SE joysticks, inevitably come with LS-32’s. Installing Seimitsu parts, let alone an LS-40, into a pre-made joystick cab (Hori or Mad Catz) is an expense well over half the people on SRK will probably never buy into. Modding is an expensive hobby and most are content or get used to what they pay for at stores…
I am thinking about modding My Mayflash with Semitsu parts. I just need to know which Joystick is best for either Sanwa, Semitsu, or any other company. I like a Joystick with a bit of resistance, like the old p2 (not p1) CvS2 sticks at the old CTF.