The Sanwa and Seimitsu FAQ

Awesome thanks!:smokin:

Iā€™m curious about this myself, but from what Iā€™ve read, I think Paik stated somewhere that 9mm is common for space between the top panel (top of it??) and the top of the mounting plate.

With 24mm between the top of the mounting plate and top panel, that gives a 10mm space on a JLF between the top of the mounting plate and the top of the top panel. That also gives 12mm on an LS-32-01 which sounds like a bit much.

Iā€™m not sure that thereā€™s a clear answer on these discrepancies. Maybe it has something to do with the thickness of the top panel.

It sounds like if you are sure thereā€™s 23-24mm between the bottom of the ball top and the top of the control panel, you should be fine.

The 9mm you mention would include the top panelā€™s thickness I believe.

I need to ā€˜bottom mountā€™ the Sticks in my case. The fibre shell will probably be 2-3mm thick so Iā€™ll mount the Seimitsu with its mounting plate directly (with around 1mm distance maybe) so with the Seimitsu S-plate (gives a 5mm offset) itā€™ll have 5-6mm for a threaded socket or a clip through which I can secure a screw with a self-locking nut. The distance between the ball and the top of the stick would then be 27-3=24mm. A Sanwa JLF with a standard mounting plate would have the same 5mm space between the plate and the case (viewed from the bottom). The distance between the bottom of the ball and the top of the case would then be 34-3-5=26mm.
Someone I asked who has a Madcatz TE stick (lucky guy) says it has thos 26mm as well. So I think thatā€™s the way Iā€™ll implement it.

thx for the link.

Im thinking of buying a custom xb360 stick with a Sanwa JLW in it, the builder claims it is easier for him to install and and im guessing the current shortage of JLFā€™s has not helped matters.
After searching around the forums im still yet to really see anything regarding how the stick is for fighting games, ive picked up there is a difference in the gates which both sticks will take and that the JLW is a little stiffer.
I have an old HRAP for ps2 so ive used a JLF before, however, my skills ingame are still highly undeveloped so i prob wouldnt notice anything too subtle.

So my question is has anybody had any first hand experience with a JLW for fighting games who can let me know a bit about what their like and if it is a decent stick for a game like sf4 or VF5.
Thanks.

PSā€¦ I know its my first post, but I did use the search fuction (how i found this thread) and im guessing this is the right thread to ask this in.

Iā€™m just curious if anyoneā€™s tried putting a spring for a JLW into an LS-32? They look very similar, and slagcoin lists that the JLW can take the LS-32 spring, but not vice versa.

Wondering if thatā€™s because it wonā€™t fit or because itā€™s never been tried.

Hey, guys, it`s me again, the Japanese stuff hater.I still regret spending so much on HRAP 3, since I mostly play fighters in MAME32, the X-Arcade feels much better despite what others say.I am used to HAPP, and a forum member suggested that I try SANWA JLW-UM with a bat top intro the HRAP, since it has a hard spring and feels a bit like the old school HAPP feel.Since this is both SANWA/SEIMITSU FAQ, I am posting my question here: shall it be any different than SEMITSU LS-32? I now have put the LS-32 into HRAP3, with genuine SANWA buttons, it feels so much better than the no-good stock SANWA stick, perfect for beat-em-up and vertical shooters, I even put 2 world records on it, but I play mostly fighter-SF II-Champion Edition and Mortal Kombat 1 rev, 3.0. I cannot get used to those buttons in fighting games, but they are OK.Making tiger uppercuts with Sagat is easy on the left, but not on the right side, on player 2 side I am good with HAPP.So, will SANWA JLW-UM improve my gameplay, I was thinking of buying the round guide restrictor GT-0 for it? I would enjoy a stiffer stick :lame::nunchuck:

replacing push button microswitches?

is it possible to replace the microswitches on the push buttons? i just finished converting my hori wii to 360 fighting stick only to find that the microswitches on the pushbuttons were broken. would it be possible to just order the sanwa SW-68ā€™s and replace the hori microswitches with those?

also, is it the microswitch or the actual pushbutton that gives the feel of sanwa push buttons. will replacing the microswitch make it ā€œfeelā€ more like a sanwa button?

The switch gives the tactile feedback.

I now own a Sanwa JLF and Seimitsu LS-32 and I love them both. Me and my brother evaluated them on our SE and HFS3 sticks and our conclusion were.

1.The throw distance on both stick were really close. the LS-32 is a tad bit shorter.
2.The Spring on the LS-32 is a little harder which gives you a little snap and the JLF is a little looser which makes it a little more sensitive.
3.There Both Awsome sticks, LOL.

As for the buttons the seimitsu buttons are a little quiter and tinsy tiny bit harder then the Sanwa buttons. Still both are awsome. Itā€™s all about preference but whichever company you choose you will not go wrong.

My new Sanwa JLF is VERY stiff on one side. From my view, itā€™s back, up-back, and up that are very stiff compared to the rest of the stick. I ask because the JLF that came with my Hrap3 was not this stiff.

Do I just have to break it in?

Yeah probably. The more I use my sticks I notice that my JLF is getting a little looser than is was and same with my LS-32.

Which do you prefer the most between the LS and JLF?

You know what its hard to say really. I can use both and it not really bother me. But if it came down to the wire and not because I like it better I would have to say the LS.

heyā€¦simple/quick question,

havenā€™t been able to find an answer for this anywhere

how wide are the standard issue dust covers/discs on JLF sticks?

thanks

Thank you for using the search and posting your questions here! The JLW is a bit stiffer. It also depend on exactly which JLW youā€™re talking about, the TM or UM. In any case, there could be a couple reasons why the seller says itā€™s ā€œeasierā€ for him. One could be since it doesnā€™t use a common ground amongst the microswitches. The other might be just mounting.

The JLW-TM feels a bit closer to JLF than the JLW-UM since it uses the same shaft size and balltop. The switches are levered and yes the gates are different in appearance. Itā€™s a good stick overall, but I prefer the JLF.

See above. Itā€™s different than the LS-32, but itā€™s more similar to the LS-32 than the JLF in my opinion.

I canā€™t say for sure that a SW-68 will fit a Wii Hori Fighting Stick button because I donā€™t have experience with that stick. A lot of Hori buttons are able to take SW-68s though. Switching the switch will make the feel a bit more Sanwa, but there are other factors that contribute to button feel that are from the actual button construction.

Thereā€™s really no reason that only one side should be stiff since the stiffness comes from the spring. There isnā€™t a need to ā€œbreak-inā€ JLFs. I would check to see if there is a problem that is coming from some obstruction.

I measured this for MarkMan a little while back. I honestly donā€™t remember off the top of my head but I think itā€™s something like 33 or 34mm. Iā€™ll do another measure for you if I remember to do so.

~Paik

great stuff, thanks Paik

jlf dust washer is 38.5-29mm iirc/

They are 38.1mm diameter.

I think I remember seeing some Seimitsu buttons that had a marble like pattern on them at Akihabara shop once, but with their site closed, I canā€™t check on that. Anyone know what Iā€™m talking about?