The Sanwa and Seimitsu FAQ

Does anybody know where to buy the (Sanwa) SDM-20-(box) (Blue) or the SDM-18-(box) (White)? They’re on page 16 of the recent Sanwa catalog. I think that one of them is the same button used in the VSHG’s four yellow buttons, but I’m not sure. Just curious if anybody knows about these things.

EDIT: When I wrote the word (box) it was because the Sanwa catalog has a little symbol of a box where that goes so I was just trying to be consistent.

can i get info on the PS-14-Ps

are they any different than the PS-14-K or PS-14-G shape,curve and size wise?

also

where can i get some PS-14-Ps per is down and i dont think chad/lizardlick or ponyboy carry em

Paik4Life,

I ordered LS-40-01 because It’s popular SNKplaymore Cab Candy. I love play SNK games.

I used, Happ and JFW has a microswitch is easy connect wire. I never try before this pineout 5 connector wires.

I bought 6-Position Dual Row Barrier Strip for $4.99 from RadioShack.

I have a question.

What’s identify color a five pineouts wire on Seimitsu LS-40-01 for up,down, Left, Right and 5 volt ?

Can I connector wire Sanwa JLF-TP-8T has a microswitch connect? not need use pineouts 5 connector wire?

Bump

Button_m4sh: I honestly don’t quite remember the pearls because I only bought one set of them a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG time ago, but I can say that they are exactly the same as in every way EXCEPT possibly the microswitches. The size and curve are the same as the clears, I’m pretty sure.

opips2: This is the wiring diagram from the first page of this thread where I explained wiring. This is specifically the LS-32-01 wiring diagram but it is the same as all the Seimitsu joysticks that use the wire harness. Remember, this is correct ONLY if you have the joystick positioned EXACTLY like in the picture. If you turn the joystick, everything will change except the ground.

On a side note, sorry that I’m not around to help and answer questions as often as I used to. Since I no longer have the space to build because I am now in an apartment instead of a house (where I had all my large tools and supplies) I haven’t been able to start new sticks or even finish building sticks I was previously working on. It’s pretty safe to say I won’t be building sticks again for a long time…if ever.

I’d also like to thank all the current builders (I won’t be specific with who) who are kind enough to jump in and answer questions for people in here when I seem to be MIA.

Happy Holidays everyone!

~Paik

Thanks Paik4Life, How many you have made build custom a joysticks?

I made build custom 5 joysticks and on in future about 4

Happy Holidays.

Does anybody know which is the tightest of all of the Japanese sticks? Rather, of the loli-pop/ball-top sticks overall? They don’t even have to be Japanese.

Are any of them already adjustable in terms of tightness? Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

opips2: I don’t know. If you look into my photobucket album there are pictures of each stick. It’s over 20 custom sticks I’m sure, not including mods.

vpt: You can switch out the joystick on a Happ and put in a balltop. I forget the details of which joystick parts you can switch in. If you go to Build Your Own Arcade Controls forums they have people there who sell some. As for tightest Jap stick, check the Kowal chart on the first page of this. That should tell you which is the tightest. From my experience it’s probably the LS32, but don’t quote me on that.

~Paik

I saw Seimitsu a stick one is expensive. that’s LS-64 Analog joystick. :looney:

I’m not sure. that’s very smoothest move. Offical Sony Playstation has analog like LS-64?

Any experience on Seimitsu LS-64?

A question for Paki or any other Sanwa experts:

My Sanwa joystick (JLF) feels like the metal washer moves around at random times which really puts me off when doing moves. Is there any fix for this? Can you remove the washer or is it better to have it installed.

Here is a picture I found online and marked so you know what I’m talking about.

http://xs122.xs.to/xs122/07520/Sanwawasher.jpg

You should stick with the jlf. The ground wire is the black on the jlf. All u do is choose a ground wire from the t5 joystick and use a quick diconnect to attatch them. With the jlf you can use the t5 joystick screws and all you have to do is drill holes in the tabs where it blocks the screws. where the white circles are is where u should drill.
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7792/jlftp8t2tm0.jpg

I have a question.

Happ Perfect 360 Electronic Joystick has a requires +5vdc power is same like
Sanwa JLF-TP-8T and Seimitsu LS-32-01?

Sanwa JLF-TP-8T is how power volts?

You don’t need +5 for most joysticks unless they use optics like Happ 360 or Sanwa Flash. JLF and LS-32 don’t need power.

~Paik

Is it possible to tell which company’s stick/button set is being used just by looking at an arcade cabinet? For example, Deluxe Tekken and VF cabinets only use Sanwa (AFAIK). But what about those generic cabinets like the SEGA City series. I noticed that in the Seimitsu catalog they have those City panels for sale. Does that mean the cabinets with those panels only use Seimitsu? Are the panels only available from Seimitsu? Even so, do arcades determine their stick preferences or they just go with defaults when purchasing panels?

I’m just curious how they determine a standard for big tournaments like SBO. I know they can switch it out for different games, but probably not for individual players. Although I do recall seeing four cabinets on the stage during those matches, possibly to switch for each style?

I’ve been searching on this forum for a while and i don’t know why but i can’t find much about wiring sanwa 30mm Snap in buttons. my only question is that which one is ground and which is the response. since they both look the same and there are no indication of one or another.

Is it that it doesn’t matter which is which? I just wire whichever ones i want??

That’s correct. It doesn’t matter where you plug your ground and response wires.

It shouldn’t be moving around. I would say just to secure it with some type of adhesive.

You can feel the difference between Sanwa and Seimitsu. Standard Seimitsu snapins are flat while Sanwas are all convex. And Sanwa also has panels or the different cabinets as well. Arcade owners can do what they want.

~Paik

Thanks Paik! This is a little off track, but I guess you’re the person to ask since you’re our local authority on Japanese parts. Do you know if there is a standard for certain types of games? Like Sanwa for 3D games (AKA games that don’t have many circular motions) and Seimitsu for 2D fighters? I know it’s a big generalization, but just thought I would ask. While they are different, in the end the player has no choice depending on the arcade they’re at. So basically I’m trying to know if the players in Japan are really as selective as the players in the US who have the opportunity to choose their sticks.

Just a comment but how come you never see all of those fancy colors of buttons and sticks in real Japanese arcade pictures?

As im finishing my mod on the Mayflash stick, the only thing thats is left to do is connect the JLF.

I was told to break the Wires from the top of the JLF so i can solder the previous wires onto it. Its because the PCB doesn’t use a common ground but the JLF does, so thats why im doing it right??

The only thing that is stopping me from doing that is that i don’t understand how is that actually different then leave it the way it is. Cause breaking it is that same as leaving it right?? (im pretty sure im wrong but i want to know why im doing such a thing)

Yes the 5-pin sanwa connector is compatible with common-ground PCBs only (in fact, PCBs with a common ground only for the directions - as for the buttons, whether there’s a common ground or not is irrelevant).

What you can do before destroying the sanwa PCB is insert 4 industrial grade microswitches instead and directly connect your pad PCB to the tabs (6.4 mm IIRC)