this.
With the addition of this info:
Q: Why do I have to join the open tournament to be invited?
A: Two reasons: first, we want to reinforce that the invitational is indeed a serious tournament. It is not just for fun and it is not a side show. The invitational will be made up 100% of women who have enough competitive juice to lay it on the line in the open tournament. Second, we want to reinforce that we are NOT trying to segregate women into their own tournament. The only way to play in the invitational is to participate in the fully open tournament against everyone else in the world.
I am now in favor of this idea…the real key here that keeps this legit, is making this an invitational ONLY for women who are also competing in the Open SF4 tourney.
Kudos to EVO management for this creative tweak on this idea, in its current form I think this will now fulfill its original intent.
I don’t watch WNBA and I won’t be watching this.
Girls in the FGC are eye candy.
So are the men.
Hate to name drop here but won’t all the girls be pissed off after they all lose to Ricky Ortiz in their own tourney?
Obvious joke #1 has been deployed, when will the second one show its face.
imo.
I noticed a disclaimer was missing:
“EVO reserves the right to refuse entrance to the Ladies Only SSF4 event.”
Women and transgendered only, please. No crossdressers!
Is that a method to stop ridicule or a challenge for anyone out there with the potential to be a convincing trap?
I think both the women and the men against the idea have to realize that the point of the tournament isn’t that women are less skilled, the point is that its a male dominated sport. The comparison to chess I believe is fitting, where lots of women do not get into competitive chess just because it seems like a “boy thing”. Breaking the mind set that competitive fighting games is something that only males do is something evo and the fighting game community in general should try to accomplish.
I see where you’re coming from but the crux of the issue is that there are women out there who have already breached our seemingly impenetrable bastion of masculinity and chauvinism without anyone else having to ‘break the mindset’ for them.
The world is a tough (and generally shitty) place, if you don’t have the guts to make a stand for yourself and only emerge after some white knights have held the door open for you then you will reinforce the stereotype of being the perennial victim.
@ this still being a big deal.
I think the analogy about men holding the door open for women is intriguing. Actually, all the way up until college, I never held doors open for women because I thought it went against the male-female equality thing, and that it was an example of male chauvinism, had I known those words at the time. I was later surprised to learn after college that modern business etiquette still allows that men can hold the door open for women if they get to the door first. If you make it too awkward or patronizing, then it’s a bad move, but if you do it right, it shows you are a gentlemen and know how to act professionally around women in the workplace.
At the risk of stretching the analogy until it breaks, I think men just happened to reach the door first and are holding it open for the women. It’s not that the women wouldn’t have been able to push the door open themselves, (as you say, there are women competitors to prove otherwise,) it’s just that men had their collective fat ass planted in front of the door and didn’t look like they were interested in moving anytime soon. Sorry if the analogy is a little clumsy.
I’ve been thinking about what you said about the attention whores, and I don’t think it will be a problem if EVO puts up a substantial cash prize for winning the tourney. Also, if it convinces Japanese women SF players to fly over for some fight money, it will work out. Attention whores always pop up around tourney time, male or female; if we get lucky, the winner will be a modest, classy champion. That would be the best case scenario.
i concur
This is a much better idea, imo. Here’s hoping to getting enough female entrants to make it a good invitational. :tup:
With the women’s only tournament only being open to those who participate in the open tournament, that goes some way toward making this less problematic. It ain’t perfect, but it’s moving in the right direction. I’m still against it in its current form.
I kept waiting but no one thru it out there, so I was like fuck me, I’ll be the one. There are still quite a few left and I am not feeling greedy so have at em srk.
I really don’t understand inkblot’s explanation for a women-only tournament. I really can’t think of having a women-only tournament outside of it being for promotion purposes, or to reaffirm the negative stereotype that women are inferior at games.
My thoughts pretty much mirror what Pherai has already said.
There won’t be which is why its a terrible idea. They should just scrap the idea at this point. It could have been generated more interest but at this point its useless.
First, nobody knows how many entrants there will be.
Second, what’s the harm in trying?
women should compete with the rest of the EVO players.
Having a side tourney specifically for women is kinda cheap, IMO. Learning a fighting game to the same capability as a top guy player isn’t gender specific.
Just last week I got my ass handed to me by this Viper player. She raped the shit out of me…and not in a good way.